Hard starting 250

[Poley4]

My Dad recently bought a new ms 250 to replace his old 2035 turbo for limbing. He really likes the power to weight of the new saw but he has a lot of trouble getting it started from cold, it starts fine once it has been warmed up. On all of his other saws,041,2036, and 10-10, he puts the choke on full and when you hear the "pop" or it tries to start, push the choke in and one more pull or so and it will be running. The problem is that the 250 will never pops, so it is a guessing game to when to push the choke back in. My sister says that her 025 is the same way. Is this typical of these models or is there something else we need to be doing different?

 

[MikeInParadise]

Is he pulling the trigger and setting the lock before putting on full choke? (Make sure that the chain brake is on)

If he is setting the trigger and it is not popping on a couple of pulls then I would take it back to the dealer and and get it checked.

 

[Poley4]

Correct me if I am wrong, but on that saw I thought that you have to pull the trigger to put the choke on full, but it has been a while since i have looked at it so I could be wrong. He did take it back to the dealer right after he bought it, they replaced the spark plug, it was flooded, and told him that it would get better when it broke in.

 

[SawTroll]

Try to open the choke after about 3 or 4 pulls, "pops" or not.

Also, the faintest sign that is wants to start should be counted as a "pop".

 

[Lakeside53]

I'd take it back. The 250 has a pretty distinct "pop", unless he has the wind-up so-called "easy-to-start" model...

I usually see 3-5 pull from cold on choke. If it dosent start in say 7, then get the choke off 'cos it's flooded...

 

[SawTroll]

...If it dosent start in say 7, then get the choke off 'cos it's flooded...

Too late imo, at least on my saws.

I never had a problem starting a 250 though (only used two), even if the owners that I know have trouble (3) - I really don't know why.....

 

[Lakeside53]

It depends on what you mean by "cold". Cold - next day, sure two or three pulls; Cold - next month, it will take more.

 

[SawTroll]

It depends on what you mean by "cold". Cold - next day, sure two or three pulls; Cold - next month, it will take more.

OK - that is true on some saws, but not on all.....
...and you can compensate by pulling the cord slowly out a few time, before doing real pulls, but it seems to me that every saw make it's own rules - avoiding flooding is the main issue though......:biggrinbounce2: :biggrinbounce2:

 

[Poley4]

Thanks, Andy and Troll. By cold, I mean the first start each morning, sitting overnight. Right after he bought the saw, he was using it on a daily basis for a couple of weeks. He told me that when he bought the saw the dealer had one last Jonsered left on the shelf, he wishes now that he had looked at it first. Dealer no longer sells them. He really liked his first Jonsered, yeah I know, it was a 2036, but he used it for probably 10 years or so without any trouble until it developed a leak in the crankcase and would no longer idle correctly. I think the key to it's longevity is the fact that he takes very good care of all of equipment. I have since changed the case seals and the impulse tube and and it runs like new. He is probably sorry he gave it to me now.

 

[SawTroll]

The Jred 2036 is a cheap saw, made by Poulan - even though I don't like the MS250, it shoud be a better saw....