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Loveum first BIG saw I owned, LOL, and the only saw we had in the lumber yard I work at for 18 years bucked alot of timber for orders, she still ran great till some moron dropped it and broke the case, poor old gal, still got it but pours gas everywere:( now we have a 2150 poulan for the last 8years that has really put up with a lot of crap too:msp_confused:
 
Curiosity killed the cat, so I drilled the plugs out to see what was underneath them. Deciding to take the chance was the hardest part, but the actual process was quite simple. I know eventually there will be someone like myself search these threads to do the same thing, so I'll post a picture.

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I wished I would have thought to grab a pic of the screen and crud that was beneath the smaller plug. The bigger one could have been left alone.

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I'm glad I took the chance...Now to get started trying to clean this out a bit and put everything back together. I'll still need some help locating those gaskets for the reed valve if anyone can point me in the right direction to procure me up some of those.

All the best,

Kenny
 
Many thanks to Blackoak for responding on another thread and helping me get this saw going again. She's running kinda rough and I can tell it's going to be a hard saw to get cranked.

[video=youtube;bpE3OgSSX2M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpE3OgSSX2M&feature=youtu.be[/video].

She smokes like there is five Cuban cigars shoved up the muffler. No telling how many miles this saw has on it, but it sure is nice to hear her run again. I was around 12 years old when this saw got stuck up in the rafters Some 30 years ago.

Now to learn how to tune the carb so it will crank consistently. I still have a few parts on the way to make it easier to pull the choke and to stop some fuel leaks, but overall i'm happy with the progress.

Thanks for your help Chuck.

Kenny
 
Man, my luck today just is not going well.

I just got back with a new 20in bar and chain for the red saw which ran perfectly just a few days ago, now I can't get the blooming thing to crank for crap. I pulled the new spark plug and oddly no fire can be detected this time. I'll have to check for a ground in the switch later this week and go from there. While I was at it, I used my compression tester I just purchased today to see what it does....Pumps up to 150psi from. (cold)

The old blue saw which I just got to run the other day after a complete carb rebuild now won't come to life either. I checked the spark and there is plenty of fire. I tried from scratch on the hi and lo settings since I was not able to get it tuned in last week, but despite 30 minutes of pulling not so much a hit. The cold pressure compression reading on it was around 125psi.

I am not really surprised the old blue saw did not run, but was hoping it would at least start for a lil bit. I'm really disappointed the red one did not fire up after the way it was running last week. Today and yesterday has been in the low 40's, so it's not entirely too cold. Oddly the red one fired right up to life last week from being left along for a cpl weeks. Small possibility it could have developed some form of electrical problem.

All the best,

Kenny
 
All right, this is complete BS. :angry:

We've got a guy with a 3rd generation saw that was owned by his Grandpa and with all of our combined resources, this thing still isn't running right? What's this site coming to? :pumpkin2:

If we're dealing with a coil problem on old blue, I probably have some stuff that can help you. Maybe an aftermarket coil that doesn't require points. I'll PM you my shop number and just give me a call next week. I need to reduce my collection a bit, so you can have this stuff for the cost of the shipping.
 
Lol,

I don't mind earning my stripes and paying my dues. To give this site the credit it deserves will be hard. The fact that I got this saw to run long enough to take that video was in itself from the generosity of Blackoak sending me a spring. I guess these old saws are as stubborn as the old mules our grandparents claimed they plowed with when they were youngsters - while fighting off grizzlies with one arm holding the plow of course:) The Chainsaw lady also has been kind enough to offer some advice which has proved very helpful. I got some parts from her today. Quick and fast!

This site is filled with a goldmine of expertise from knowledgeable mentors. Truthfully, I would love nothing better than to plop this old saw down on a workbench of a retired person and tinker on it while listening to his old war stories. Damn what I would have done to be able to enjoy knowing my grandfather as a adult. Back then, he was just grandpa ya know? As a child you can't appreciate those moments sitting over a pot of coffee listening to old times.

I'll get this old saw restored. May take me some time to do my homework pouring over these threads, but she'll run again!

All the best,

Kenny
 
As I read through the first page of this thread I'd decided to offer to get this saw going again (including pulling parts from my stash) if you'd pay to ship it to and from my place. I get quite sentimental about this stuff. Once I got to the second page I saw that you're working your way through getting it/them going on your own now. That's a good thing. Teach a man to fish....

Send me a PM if you end up needing good used parts for these saws. Only thing I don't have spares of (for this series) is good P/C's and the blue coils used on later production electronic ignition equipped saws. Gaskets and such can be found on feebay. Do you have an IPL (Illustrated Parts List) for these saws? How about a digital copy of the Homelite Service Manual? PM me if you need those. Glad to see you're learning and enjoying spending time with your Grandpa's saw. :msp_thumbup:
 
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Thanks for the post guys. You're very right about your post. The old saw is kinda sentimental to me, despite it being shoved up in the rafters year after year. In fact, just today I put a feeler out on my Facebook page for someone with a work bench who is familiar with small engine repair that that wouldn't mind guiding me through a complete tear down and restoration of the saw. I don't want it done for me, I want to learn how to do it with some guidance. Most I can offer in payment is sharing some old stories of the experiences I have learning to cut wood with my grand dad. But then again, if I can get it going, might just have to cut that person up a few cords of wood for their trouble.

I view this kinda like a car lover would when restoring his gramps old 57 Chevy. If I needed a new saw I would go get me one, if I just needed it fixed, I would pawn it off on the nearest shop and let them deal with the headache. Rather instead, I want to feel the connection that goes along with way with working on this old saw.

You know, the embarrassing this about this is, I grew up on a farm; was plowing and driving a tractor before I was big enough to climb on them by myself. But somewhere, despite having the opportunity in my hat to have this farm to myself, I turned and walked away.....Funny how saying "I DO" royally screws up your plans in life. Lol

Never the less, my career goal as a teenager was to become a Paramedic. Back then, those farm duties was for the devil. Gosh I can't tell you how bad I wanted to burn those chicken houses to the ground. But looking back now, those chores my parents and grandparents made me do when my school friends were out doing their deeds was not so bad after all.

Given the opportunity to hit the rewind button, I would have gladly accepted my parents offer to keep their farm going and not take the lazy route. But I figured there would always be sick people and that would offer more job security that anything. I would hate to know I would have to look my grandfather in the eye and admit to being a coward by not continuing on with the farm work. But it is what it is, today as a grown adult, about the only thing I know how to do is fix is people from what ever predicament they got themselves into.............Sometime that does involve chainsaws. Lol

So in a nut shell, the saw in itself is not critical to get running again as I could go get a new one if I needed such. But to be able to pass this down to my lil nephew in another decade or two and share a story about the life of it would be all to cool. To all you old timers out there who thinks your grandkids don't pay you any attention......I promise you they do.

Kenny
 
I like how your resurrecting your grandfathers saw. My father dropped off his Homelite Super XL last year for me to have. He saved up and bought that saw new in 1977 so he could clear the lot for the house he and mom were building as well as cut firewood for the fireplace in the new house. I loved hearing that Homelite run as a kid because it meant I was out "helping dad".

When dad dropped off the saw it had not been run in quite awhile. I drained the stale gas, refilled with fresh fuel, and cleaned the saw up. On the 3rd or 4th pull she fired up and purred (and smoked) just like it was 1977 again.

I have a newer Husqvarna 372xp and 346xp and as much as those saw are the cat's meow if I was forced to keep only one saw it would be the Homelite because I would be too sad to let go of that childhood memory.

Good luck getting your saws tuned in.
 
Although it would not start for a million dollars today, they red one in this picture started on the third pull after being in the back of the barn for the past 20 some odd years. The only thing I did was get the flywheel pawl studs loose with some WD 40 that was rusted to the shaft. I put some sandpaper to the flywheel and coil, added a new spark plug and the thing started on the 3rd pull. Heck, I have brand new trimers and blowers that don't start that fast. She purs like a kitten. Now why the crappin thing won't start today is beyond me.

The blue saw came to life with not too much effort after doing the rebuild on the carb. I expected it to be a bit more stubborn. And sure enough it's turning out that way. She'll run, just gotta find the right day to crank her on. lol

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Tools for overhaul

It will be a while before I have enough free time to tinker with the saws any, so this post is nothing more than to pass time. If I were to try to undertake a total restore on this old blue saw, beyond your standard socket set, what are some of the "must have" tools I might need to be looking for?

I sifted through some threads last night trying to see what ppl have on their work benches. There are some pretty nice tools being used. Some may be specific to saw brand. I envy those who have the space for a nice work bench. If this house ever closes, one of the first things I will be doing his hitting Lowes up for the material to dedicate a work space out in the garage. The person before me had it made into a man cave. Covered in reclaimed barn wood, ceiling fans, AC, Heater. Old classic collector beer and neon signs. Wet bar, dart boards, pool and air hockey tables. Me?..........I park my truck in it and use it what it was intended for. Lol

Kenny
 

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