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Im purchasing a used Heatmor 400 dcss and would like to know the best place to purchase the P Pex pipe and all the required fittings and other items i will need to hook it up to my baseboard radiator system in my house and i will be hooking it up to a heat exchanger in my shop. Also could anyone tell me how to hook it up to my existing radiators. This will be my first OWB. Thanks!
 
Are u planning on using ur existing boiler still? Do u know how to solder copper? Without knowing what u have for an existing system it's hard to know how to pipe it. Either eliminate the existing boiler or pipe in a heat exchanger between the owb and the existing piping and some low voltage wiring.

Don't know where u live but around here we have an Irr supply which is where I get plumbing and heating parts.
 
I want to keep the existing boiler incase i need to use it. And yes i can solder copper pipe. Just wondering how to go about this

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Then you will need to install a heat exchanger into the 2 loops that keeps them separate but allows the heat to transfer. Do u have zone valves on ur boiler or a few pumps or just one loop with a pump? You will have to wire it so that your thermostat tells ur owb to heat when your regular thermostat or thermostats call for heat. As for your shop that's going to be another loop with more wiring and a pump.

I think you are best finding someone locally who can tell you what you need to do. Without knowing everything that is going on it is very hard to tell you how to pipe a system like that. I'm sure others will come along to help who know about your model owb.
 
Two most important basic things - a big flat plate heat exchanger, and GOOD underground piping. By GOOD, I mean Thermopex or the like with solid foam insulation, not the wrapped crap.

After that, things get pretty situation specific and depend a lot on exactly what your existing system is. Which we know not much about. Two locations/systems (shop & house?) and their layout & relationship can complicate - also unknowns. Two plate HXs may be needed - or maybe not.

Keeping existing boiler intact and fully operational = a very good thing.
 
If you have a central boiler dealer close to you that is one place to acquire thermopex. It's a bear to work with cause it is stiff as a board but I experience about a 1 degree drop in 100 feet of pipe so I think it is well worth the money.

And like NS and Mustang say the install gets pretty specific to your existing situation.
 
You will have to wire it so that your thermostat tells ur owb to heat when your regular thermostat or thermostats call for heat.

I disagree with this statement. I have 2 thermostats. One is wired just to start my pump on my furnace to start stealing heat from the heat exchanger being supplies by my OWB when the house is calling for heat. My furnace has nothing to do with operating my OWB. My OWB purrs along maintaining a 170* to 180* independent of what the house is doing using its own temp control system. I also have my LP furnace still on line that I use as a back up to the OWB. I set that thermostat at 60 and it is wired to light my furnace. 2 thermostats was the only way I could get the system to work keeping my regular furnace as a back up.
 
I disagree with this statement. I have 2 thermostats. One is wired just to start my pump on my furnace to start stealing heat from the heat exchanger being supplies by my OWB when the house is calling for heat. My furnace has nothing to do with operating my OWB. My OWB purrs along maintaining a 170* to 180* independent of what the house is doing using its own temp control system. I also have my LP furnace still on line that I use as a back up to the OWB. I set that thermostat at 60 and it is wired to light my furnace. 2 thermostats was the only way I could get the system to work keeping my regular furnace as a back up.

Do u have forced air heat with a water coil in ur duct work or a boiler? They would be 2 very different installs.

I was also talking about having different zones in the house and getting it all to communicate depending on wether it's zone valves or pump zones.

There are many ways to do it i was focusing on the inside part since I know nothing about the owb. And by not knowing any info about the current heating system it was just a general statement. Being a heating guy I like to have stuff work together and complicate stuff because I can.
 
do you have to run thermopex or insulated pipe once your inside the house or can you run regular pex pipe
 
I have the old baseboard heat. My blower is off. When the t-stat calls for blower to start, my circ pump kicks on. I have a heatmor 200. Heat exchanger keeps water from heatmor and inside boiler from mixing. Also, isolate your exchanger with shutoffs, as well as you pump for easy replacement in case of failure. I agree, a knowledgeable local guy will help with your case. Good luck. Give us pics
 
I have the old baseboard heat. My blower is off. When the t-stat calls for blower to start, my circ pump kicks on. I have a heatmor 200. Heat exchanger keeps water from heatmor and inside boiler from mixing. Also, isolate your exchanger with shutoffs, as well as you pump for easy replacement in case of failure. I agree, a knowledgeable local guy will help with your case. Good luck. Give us pics

And while your installing those shutoffs at your exchanger [yes, agree, they are a must], you also should install boiler drains - two on each side of the exchanger - so you can also flush/clean either side of the exchanger easily, without taking anything apart.
 
ok, let me try to explain this without overwhelming you.
everything these guys said above, is spot on, Thermopex, iso valves, boiler drains, all a must. very nice if a pump goes down mid season to turn the 2 iso flanges, unbolt 4 bolts, remove pump and bolt in a new one. dont even have to let the boiler cool. also, download the HEATMOR manual, and read the procedure for filling/purging the system, that alone will give u a good idea of what they expect you to be able to do just to fill the system.
also, from what i hear, depth isnt that important, 2ft down is ok, whats more important is that you dont try to lay the pipe at 4ft, down in the water table. water will suck the heat like you cant believe.
i do dirt, so of course mine is 3ft down, with a 1ft sand bed all around it. but i am high and dry from groundwater.

Heatmor DOESNT need a thermostat wire to call for heat, it maintains 165-180 on its own. BUT. a DUMP wire is recomended. the second aquastat has a red wire so when it does a emergency shutdown, it can ACTIVATE a zone in the building to dump the boilers heat avoiding a boilover.
i wire the OWB circulator pump to a cord plug, so i can unplug in the summer, and also remove pump for service/exchange.(there is a outlet right there in the back of the heatmor for this)
also not needed, but i wish i ran a water line out to the boiler for filling and fire control purposes, and whatever else around the boiler. would be handy, trench was there, so stupid not to lay extra pipe.

to keep the current furnace operational and also to simplify your life, your going to want another clamp on pipe aquastat.
so my house is all wired through a taco 5 station zone controler. all wired to the oil furnace for operation. so my emergency switch must be on for zone pumps to work. so to keep this, but also keep my oil as a backup, i have a clamp on aquastat mounted to the HE loop.(ill cover this loop BS later) so the aquastat has a range parameter, so basicaly if the pipe is 120 or hotter, the switch is OPEN, breaking the power feed from the zone control to the furnace EYE. if the aquastat detects the water temp is below 120, it closes the circuit, powering the photocell, and the Oil burner completes the call for heat by firing.
otherwise, the zones are tricked into operating as they should, thinking the oil has lit, when actually the OWB is providing its heat.

so now the stupid HEAT EXCHANGER LOOP. this is stupid, and while it makes servicing EASIER, it makes your efficiency go backwards. during heating season, i have to run 2 taco circulators 24/7,one is OWB-HE,other is HE to Oil furnace.
heatmor says it doesnt have to be like this. the HE can be plumbed in series with the zone-oil furnace loops, so the heat exchanger sits there HOT, and when a zone calls for heat, its pump provides the circulation.
im running a extra taco 0011 24hrs a day for no good reason.
 
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