That's ridiculous, some people have alot of nerve. I have never done anything like this. I've had an egg thrown at my shop and someone took a screw driver to my exhaust manifold on my chipper, tore it all to hell. I also had someone let the oil out of my chipper. Just a punk who can't settle his differences like man. It really pisses me off but retaliation will not get me anywhere, I figure karma will catch up sooner or later. I usually smile and wave when I see competition and boy do you get some dirty looks. HAHAHA!
How professional are you?
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TDunk
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Most of the other people that do tree work in my area i get along with. I even hire a guy once in a while to climb for me cuz i'm not that good yet. There's really only one person i don't get along with, and i still wouldn't drive by and give him the finger, that's just not me. I wouldn't even do it just for fun if i knew the guy real well. As for someone screwing with my equipment, it hasn't happened yet (other than siphoning fuel out of my bucket truck). There's a street light pointed where they park plus two cameras.
outofmytree
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Exactly the right response.
Worst possible response. FTA you are sounding more and more like a troll.
ForTheArborist
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OOMT said,
"Worst possible response. FTA you are sounding more and more like a troll."
I know that I'm an honest person, and I know that honesty and good intentions are misperceived as deception and no good intentions by people. I know how the human mind works.
As far as what I said in that post that you quoted, I won't change my mind about that. Honestly.
I bet most of the people on this forum live in the country or small towns. I've lived in those places before too, and I know it's peaceful. I've been living in a few big cities for several years now, and I have learned one thing from the most abundant of nasty people in them. You have to earn the food for you and your family's table, and you have to do something to keep it from being stolen off of your table.
All property is public property unless you have a way of protecting it. To people that just want to be brutal or need the things you've earned honestly your things are not private property. They can't appreciate private property. Seriously. To them those things are open game for them to take. These things happen, and I told you what I do at this time and what I'd do if I were having problems with people sabotaging and stealing my property too.
Keep it on the table, and protect it or it won't be yours for long. I believe firmly in that whether it sounds like sweet ol' poetry to you or not.
Also I don't even see how I could live honestly if I didn't have a means to protect myself. I'd get popped just for being some "do gooder, white person' if I thought I could go around living the right way for a good life, yet I didn't know I need to make it seem like there will be serious trouble if someone tries to keep me from good intentions. Trouble has a way of making you kiss it's ass or pushing it back. As a dad, kids aren't going to see me kissing the "bad guys" asses.
"Worst possible response. FTA you are sounding more and more like a troll."
I know that I'm an honest person, and I know that honesty and good intentions are misperceived as deception and no good intentions by people. I know how the human mind works.
As far as what I said in that post that you quoted, I won't change my mind about that. Honestly.
I bet most of the people on this forum live in the country or small towns. I've lived in those places before too, and I know it's peaceful. I've been living in a few big cities for several years now, and I have learned one thing from the most abundant of nasty people in them. You have to earn the food for you and your family's table, and you have to do something to keep it from being stolen off of your table.
All property is public property unless you have a way of protecting it. To people that just want to be brutal or need the things you've earned honestly your things are not private property. They can't appreciate private property. Seriously. To them those things are open game for them to take. These things happen, and I told you what I do at this time and what I'd do if I were having problems with people sabotaging and stealing my property too.
Keep it on the table, and protect it or it won't be yours for long. I believe firmly in that whether it sounds like sweet ol' poetry to you or not.
Also I don't even see how I could live honestly if I didn't have a means to protect myself. I'd get popped just for being some "do gooder, white person' if I thought I could go around living the right way for a good life, yet I didn't know I need to make it seem like there will be serious trouble if someone tries to keep me from good intentions. Trouble has a way of making you kiss it's ass or pushing it back. As a dad, kids aren't going to see me kissing the "bad guys" asses.
treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
Exactly ....
Where do you live the ghetto? I've lived in cities and always been able to dodge trouble. As long as you don't walk around with an attitude and keep to your own business people tend to not notice you. I think carrying weapons is asking for trouble. Even if you do carry a weapon what are the chance of actually having to use it in a lifetime.
Really dude like i'm gonna stab my competition for flipping me off. As far protecting belongs, that's what insurance is for.
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FTA,
Sometimes it might behoove you to just be quiet.
I own ALOT of guns. Enough to most likely make our wishy-washy idiots in Washington piss themselves. And I hit what I am aiming at.
That being said, carrying a weapon, whether it be a gun, knife, or battle axe, onto the jobsite is a big mistake. All major construction companies and major projects absolutely prohibit weapons on site for good reasons. Sticking a knife in someoe's face while doing a job on private property definately won't add to your professional reputation. I guess I should also clarify here that I view guns and knives as tools, not weapons, but in the wrong hands, they can definately do damage.
I have run projects in some of the worst cities in the country, including New York City, Boston MA, Providence RI, Bridgeport CT, Washington DC, Pittsburgh and Philly PA, Houston, Dallas, and Corpus Christie TX, Miami and Tampa/St. Pete FL. I have never had to carry either a pistol or a knife. I think your justification is b u l l s h i t.
As for the OP concerning the finger incident, smiling and waving is the most diplomatic, but I have found another way to handle it that works wonders.
Find the company/crew that took time out of thier day to offend you. Find out where they drink. Hit that bar up while they are in there. Locate the A holes, and buy them a round of drinks. If they don't realize who you are, explain it to them. Let them know you are 100-percent aware of thier actions, and you dont appreciate it. The great majority of the time, they will see things your way. If they dont, write them off. Thats how I handle those things, anyway...
Another ranting and raving post of my two cents.
Sometimes it might behoove you to just be quiet.
I own ALOT of guns. Enough to most likely make our wishy-washy idiots in Washington piss themselves. And I hit what I am aiming at.
That being said, carrying a weapon, whether it be a gun, knife, or battle axe, onto the jobsite is a big mistake. All major construction companies and major projects absolutely prohibit weapons on site for good reasons. Sticking a knife in someoe's face while doing a job on private property definately won't add to your professional reputation. I guess I should also clarify here that I view guns and knives as tools, not weapons, but in the wrong hands, they can definately do damage.
I have run projects in some of the worst cities in the country, including New York City, Boston MA, Providence RI, Bridgeport CT, Washington DC, Pittsburgh and Philly PA, Houston, Dallas, and Corpus Christie TX, Miami and Tampa/St. Pete FL. I have never had to carry either a pistol or a knife. I think your justification is b u l l s h i t.
As for the OP concerning the finger incident, smiling and waving is the most diplomatic, but I have found another way to handle it that works wonders.
Find the company/crew that took time out of thier day to offend you. Find out where they drink. Hit that bar up while they are in there. Locate the A holes, and buy them a round of drinks. If they don't realize who you are, explain it to them. Let them know you are 100-percent aware of thier actions, and you dont appreciate it. The great majority of the time, they will see things your way. If they dont, write them off. Thats how I handle those things, anyway...
Another ranting and raving post of my two cents.
You gotta draw the line somewhere....or they will just keep screwing with you.
treeclimber101
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This thread is all well and fine to hear so many willing to turn the other cheek , but there is a line that if crossed changes things so again if your gonna flip me the bird well then game on as far as I am concerned ...
That'll work wonders for making peace and converting the uninitiated to believers in not flipping you off, alright. Sadly, I just don't have enough motivation to track them down, and I certainly won't be buying them a beer. Anybody that I drink beer with must conform to a higher standard of behavior. Otherwise, I'll just drink elsewhere.
TDunk
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I have to agree with that. Someone flippin me off or shouting as they drove by wouldn't bother me to much. Obviously if they don't stop, then there to much of a coward to talk to me face to face. People who do that hate confrontation. But if someone screwed with my equipment, told customers that i'm a know nothing hack, tell people that i've dropped a tree on a house in youngsville (ya, i know it was you) then you betcha, it's on like donkey kong.
mckeetree
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It was all on the phone. Never to my face. There is one old man that would cuss me to my face though if I gave him the chance I just never really wanted a confrontation with him because I would have to knock the old bastard out and I don't want the publicity. The rest were just mouthing from a distance.
LOL, on the phone.. sad.
mckeetree
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There is one local dumbass here that DID drop a tree on a house, and yes, I told a couple people about it. The guy calls me and says "Hey MF, I hear you been tellin people I dropped a tree on a house." I reply with "Well, you stupid MF, you did drop a tree on a house." After a little silence the guy starts in about how it was really somebody else in the tree business with his same name and business name.
TDunk
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LOL. Yup, it was my ugly half brother that did it. He used the same business name, and insurance info. too. What are the chances huh ???
It would be different if i actually DID drop a tree on a house, but i didn't. And it still erks me months after the fact.
TreeClimber57
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Which is what they are. However, technically any tool can be made into a weapon in the wrong hands.. an axe, hammer, chainsaw.. whatever.
Well said.. it should at least make them think.
TreeClimber57
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Really!!?? Did you suggest that maybe he should hire a lawyer if somebody else was using HIS busness name and personal name..
However.. suspect it was a lame excuse for ignorance.
mckeetree
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Really!!?? Did you suggest that maybe he should hire a lawyer if somebody else was using HIS busness name and personal name..
However.. suspect it was a lame excuse for ignorance.
You would just have to know this guy to appreciate the situation. If you say anything to him that makes any sense he vapor locks. He is actually working for another outfit now but that guy is almost as bad as him.
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