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I spent the weekend clearing windblown pine trees in a plantation. The small ones were fine, but the bigger ones were quite hard, and I’d appreciate some advice from the assembled company.

The plantation is pretty dense as it wasn’t thinned enough when the trees were about 10 years old, so if we get windblow, the trees lean on the next door one, gradually pushing them down like dominoes. Generally they never fall flat, as they are all hung up on each other. The “initial” tree is the easiest, as that is the closest to horizontal – I simply slice it up, cutting from the bottom of the tree with the top of the bar. So far so good. As you get towards the last tree in a group of leaners, they get more vertical, and that is where the problems start.

I’ll use the biggest problem I had as an example. A 60ft doug fir, about 20” across at the bottom and dead straight was leaning on its neighbours at an angle of perhaps 5 degrees. The root ball was clearly lifted from the ground, so it had to go. A conventional “notch/backcut/hinge” technique did not work – it moved to about 6 degrees and damn near pinched the saw as the hinge started to collapse due to the weight on it. Eventually I got it down by cutting a notch in the top side of the trunk about 3 feet further up, then undercutting – this allowed the 3ft length to “fold up”, and it was easy from then on. However the second cut felt pretty dangerous mainly because of the huge weight of the tree bearing down. Does anyone have any ideas?

On the saw specifics, I can report that putting an 18” bar on my 046 was the best thing I’ve done – the weight is sensible, and it cuts soooo fast. That is a great combination.
 
I use a wedge for the situation you are describing (blocking a hung up tree on the stump)and I also cut at angle so the tree slides away from me if its not saw log material. For nice butt logs I've used a 2 ton come along with a make shift skid plate for the butt which took a while....
I am just a weekend hacker though.

In a production environment I'm sure some form of skidder to drag the bottom out is the safest method.
Ian
 
Yeah, I usually "fencepost" stuff like that down. BUT, that wouldn't work well for production, lots of waste. I also never have equipment to pull it down with anywhere near where I need it. Basically the same as you described, make a cut that's pretty close to plumb, taking the offside of the log first, then start coming in from the top until it starts pinching, then cut up from the bottom, escape, and repeat. Yeah, it's sketchy, but practice makes you more comfortable and able to predict the tree's behavior.
 
I just go for the best alternative and then pull on the bottom of the tree and drag it back...always look up tho for limbs that they are hung on that want to come down on your head...
 
Thanks for the replies...!

I don't have the room to get a tractor in without clearing a road - it will be easy when the whole lot needs felling, but not at the moment. If I did have access, I agree that pulling the tree off the stump would be the safest approach.

The thread that tawilson linked to has the answer I think I need - the photo "leaner_cropped" shows the technique, which seems a heck of a lot safer than the method I was using. I will try it out next time I am there - starting on some of the smaller trees first!

Thanks again - it is amazing the knowledge here, I knew that there would be an answer!

:cheers: :cheers:
 
I felt pretty comfortable with the whole thing because of the winch allowing me to get clear before things started happening. Sounds like you are going to be a little crowded in your setup. Maybe you could use a come-a-long and cable/rope to let you get clear.
 
Falling dense pines

You working alone or with someone? With a wooden pole saw with some extentions you could limb up the tree. Then set a 1/2" rope up high with your pole saw, then cut the tree and pull it over. A simple rope come-a-long would help two people pull it over too!
 

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