How to choke a tree

[turnkey4099]

Sorry for the poor pictures - ran out of battery and couldn't tell what they were like.

Found this while falling an old locust. The 'clamp' is madeof two bars of 3/8" x 1 1/2" iron held together by two 3/8" bolts. The stem almost survived as the 'collar' growing over the iron and bolts almost buried them.

The clamp is the dark bar just above the cut off branch. I can't figure out what they were attempting to do. Possibly cure a split before the other stems sprouted?

Harry K

 

[TreEmergencyB]

wow almost 2 whole days and no one said anything about the ladder wheres mr. safety at on this one????

 

[BarkBuster20]

wow, that ladder in the tree, is just so unsafe. :computer2:

 

[TreEmergencyB]

and note all the chainsaw size ladder height cuts?????:jawdrop:

and no rope into the tree

 

[BarkBuster20]

surprised no one died

 

[treemandan]

I agree. How anyone could come out of that alive beats me. The cuts look bad as well.
I hope the guy is OK, haven't heard anything from him in a few days.

 

[TreEmergencyB]

right? i hope he didnt go for them dead ones a lil higher up still using that ladder maybe he got out his gas powerd pole saw and maybe get a lil more reach out that ladder.............

 

[treemandan]

Nah, he is still among the living. He has that locust split up and stacked.

 

[TreEmergencyB]

probally but i though mr. osha saftey guy from the other thread im not gonna say names but you know who woulda been all over this

 

[treemandan]

probally but i though mr. osha saftey guy from the other thread im not gonna say names but you know who woulda been all over this

yeah ME ! I dunno but I am not to sure about turnkey ( the firwood wrangler) posting pics like that in arborist 101 and I say now it look likes dumb ass 101.
Sure a guy can do what he wants, its his business but he just made it mine didn't he.
Just to clarify: Iam not attacking turnkey, nor his family, nor his dog. I am just saying. Its like if he was about to put his penis in an electric pencil sharpener, I just feel I should say something ... like STOP!

 

[turnkey4099]

Wow! two days. I expected that barrage the first day. .

Actually, the ladder was only used to get up one step for that big cut off. Only needed to get a bit higher than I could reach.

Believe it or not, a ladder can be safer than working from the ground. In this case it was as on the ground I would have been standing pretty much under that. I was only a stub about 12" long.

Ladders are not "instant death". I suppose you would have objected to my use of the 24' ladder to get my cable attached about 14' up there to pull it in the right direction also.

What, no "call a professional" for a simple job?

Harry K

 

[treeseer]

When you finish cutting, could you try to get the clamp off and cut a lengthwise piece, to show the tree's growth around the clamp?

No idea why that thing was put on the tree.

Also no idea wtf is wrong with ladders; i use one every day.

 

[outofmytree]

Wow! two days. I expected that barrage the first day. .

Actually, the ladder was only used to get up one step for that big cut off. Only needed to get a bit higher than I could reach.

Believe it or not, a ladder can be safer than working from the ground. In this case it was as on the ground I would have been standing pretty much under that. I was only a stub about 12" long.

Ladders are not "instant death". I suppose you would have objected to my use of the 24' ladder to get my cable attached about 14' up there to pull it in the right direction also.

What, no "call a professional" for a simple job?

Harry K

Hi turnkey. Get ready. You will need a flak jacket.

Ladders are officially rated as the worlds most dangerous hand tool and chainsaws are number 2. So if you really feel the need to hurt yourself why not combine both???

Don't call professionals for simple jobs. Just do em yourself and decrease CO2 pollution by the output of 1 human...........

Why not use a polesaw from both sides?

If you are going to post in a public forum, don't be suprised when the public responds.

I take it you removed the "choked" leader?

 

[outofmytree]

Also no idea wtf is wrong with ladders; i use one every day.

And I see by your sig that you don't use chainsaws either. Its the two together that makes for a quick trip to the ER.

 

[treemandan]

Clinical studies that prolonged use of ladders in tree work leads to homosexuality. Now that is a fact you just can't argue with.

But seriously, what did you cut it with turnkey? Looks like you cut right through the notches.

 

[turnkey4099]

When you finish cutting, could you try to get the clamp off and cut a lengthwise piece, to show the tree's growth around the clamp?

No idea why that thing was put on the tree.

Also no idea wtf is wrong with ladders; i use one every day.

A ladder is a tool. As with all tools, misuse can hurt. I use them but not stupidly. The crowd in here gets their panties in a knot at the first sight of a ladder no matter what it is used for.

I can just see any one of them pulling up to that job, suiting up, putting a rope in the tree, climbing up 12" and dropping that stub. Uhuh!. I'll also bet that near every one of them has a ladder on the truck to be used in just such situations.

I'll give a shot at trying to remove the clamp. Serious doubt about being able todo it. I cut a 6' chunk out of the leader and tossed the thing in the bush.

Harry K

 

[turnkey4099]

Hi turnkey. Get ready. You will need a flak jacket.

Ladders are officially rated as the worlds most dangerous hand tool and chainsaws are number 2. So if you really feel the need to hurt yourself why not combine both???

Don't call professionals for simple jobs. Just do em yourself and decrease CO2 pollution by the output of 1 human...........

Why not use a polesaw from both sides?

If you are going to post in a public forum, don't be suprised when the public responds.

I take it you removed the "choked" leader?

A polesaw? For something that size? I'll call you for the next one.

Yes the I took the leader off _after_ the tree was on the ground. Making a wild assumption as most of the posters did were you?

There is a big difference between constructive criticism and outright a&&holishness. Most of the posts in here are the latter.

"Don't call professionals for simple jobs. Just do em yourself and decrease CO2 pollution by the output of 1 human..........."

Being a professional is no gaurantee either. Just refer to the accidents and fatalities forum. BTW, just how many "ladder" problems have you seen in there?

The usual cry. A professional is someone who probably has a lot less experience than I do. Been at it over 30 years. How about you?

Harry K

 

[turnkey4099]

Clinical studies that prolonged use of ladders in tree work leads to homosexuality. Now that is a fact you just can't argue with.

But seriously, what did you cut it with turnkey? Looks like you cut right through the notches.

???. I did a shallow "v" notch on the underside and a fellign cut from the top - yes from a step or two up the (shudder, faint) ladder. Yes, the two cuts pretty well matched up. As I said, it was a short stub taken off to get it out of the way of the (panic) 24" ladder. Finesse not needed.

Harry K

 

[treemandan]

???. I did a shallow "v" notch on the underside and a fellign cut from the top - yes from a step or two up the (shudder, faint) ladder. Yes, the two cuts pretty well matched up. As I said, it was a short stub taken off to get it out of the way of the (panic) 24" ladder. Finesse not needed.

Harry K

Yeah we are just busting on you and you have to admit to the trained eye ( mine) it looks hairy.
You must be pretty tall.

 

[outofmytree]

A polesaw? For something that size? I'll call you for the next one.

Yes the I took the leader off _after_ the tree was on the ground. Making a wild assumption as most of the posters did were you?

There is a big difference between constructive criticism and outright a&&holishness. Most of the posts in here are the latter.

"Don't call professionals for simple jobs. Just do em yourself and decrease CO2 pollution by the output of 1 human..........."

Being a professional is no gaurantee either. Just refer to the accidents and fatalities forum. BTW, just how many "ladder" problems have you seen in there?

The usual cry. A professional is someone who probably has a lot less experience than I do. Been at it over 30 years. How about you?

Harry K

The average ladder is 300mm wide. The limb in the picture is 1 1/2 times wider than the ladder. My stihl ht75 has 250mm of usable bar length. So as I said, cut it from either side and pop, off it comes.

I can cut that branch off with a polesaw just as fast as you can set up your ladder.

I have no objection to the proper use of a ladder its doing stupid things like running a rear handle saw from one that arcs me up.

One more observation. Given the distance from the ladder to the cut, either you one hand your saw or you lean out from the ladder.