How to get rid of down on his luck tree guy?

[fastbub]

I have a climber who lives in my town who was fired/ let go fro a company a while ago and is doing side work by bicycle. He has an alcohol problem and keeps coming to my house to see if I will chip brush for him. I have told him no, but he keeps showing up. He comes around when only my wife is home and harasses her and he knows what equipment I have and where it is all stored. How do i get rid of him without pissing him off?

Does anybody else ever have problems like this? I seem to get all sorts of riff raff around here.

 

[lees trees]

I've had to deal with several drunks or druggies. I tell them, I like you but I hate when your drunk and if I ain't here you got no business here either. the more direct the better' should only have to tell him once and he might even look out for you a little. he probably dosn't get allot of respect if your firm and give him a little respect he won't want to lose that. I did have to throw one guy around he was on crack I bet I put him on the ground 100 times he was so messed up I had to hurt him a little so he remembered after that he gave me no problems still wave at him. good luck

 

[buzz sawyer]

I have a climber who lives in my town who was fired/ let go fro a company a while ago and is doing side work by bicycle. He has an alcohol problem and keeps coming to my house to see if I will chip brush for him. I have told him no, but he keeps showing up. He comes around when only my wife is home and harasses her and he knows what equipment I have and where it is all stored. How do i get rid of him without pissing him off?

Does anybody else ever have problems like this? I seem to get all sorts of riff raff around here.

I get the impression that you consider him a little psychotic and may harm you wife, otherwise, why are you concerned about pissing him off? If he's just a pest and you have specifically told him not to come around, have you considered a restraining order?

 

[Mitchell]

sympathetic

You must be a sympathetic soul to not run him off and now he feels he can keep pushing the boundaries. My wife and I also have given guys with bad track records a break. It always bites us in the butt if we do not set very rigid boundaries with folks who for what ever reason do not respect boundaries.
In my experience it is only going to get more difficult to deal with as time passes.

I had to take a few days off work once because a guy [drugs but found god kinda guy ] was showing up mad only when I was gone of course. We kicked him out after letting him live with us for a "week" until he got situated. I had to restrain myself and get the cops involved when I caught him sliding are patio door open and stepping in. Amazingly but not surprisingly he called the other day for my wife to see if he could get a job reference WTF!!!

Sounds like you have a similar minded fellow on your hands. Be very stern and aggressive with your boundaries; do not make the mistake of treating him like your neighbor or friends. If you want to help him out make sure he understands your house and spouse are offside.

 

[Justice]

I would stop him the next time I see him and tell him that "no is no" and that is not going to change. That if he came to your house again you were going to have to press charges against him. Be polite, but FIRM. He may react and you could deliver some JUSTICE right there. Just make him understand you mean what you say.

I would also go to the local police first and tell them. I am sure they already know him, and that way should anything happen they already know the situation.

What part of Jersey are you from anyway?

 

[ropensaddle]

I have a climber who lives in my town who was fired/ let go fro a company a while ago and is doing side work by bicycle. He has an alcohol problem and keeps coming to my house to see if I will chip brush for him. I have told him no, but he keeps showing up. He comes around when only my wife is home and harasses her and he knows what equipment I have and where it is all stored. How do i get rid of him without pissing him off?

Does anybody else ever have problems like this? I seem to get all sorts of riff raff around here.

Well my wife is harder than I am she
would answer the door with a gun and he would not come back.

 

[pbtree]

Well my wife is harder than I am she
would answer the door with a gun and he would not come back.

As it should be!

 

[Ekka]

Well my wife is harder than I am she
would answer the door with a gun and he would not come back.

As it should be!

Here we go again.

Hey, I found this thread very amusing, WTF sort of tree workers ya got, Louisiana ones?!

 

[treesquirrel]

Well my wife is harder than I am she
would answer the door with a gun and he would not come back.

Yup, my wife has her very own 12 gauge double barrel loaded and is ready for such times. Gotta luv em'.

 

[fastbub]

I get the impression that you consider him a little psychotic and may harm you wife, otherwise, why are you concerned about pissing him off? If he's just a pest and you have specifically told him not to come around, have you considered a restraining order?

Yeah he seems a little crazy and has the whole angry at the world attitude. He definitely does not understand boundaries so I am afraid he is the kind of guy that will retaliate if I piss him off. Maybe not immediately but down the road a few days or so. I have not considered a restraining order because I am not sure if it is necessary. Yesterday he comes into my gate, on my porch and tries to come in my screen door where we are having dinner. I get him back out onto my lawn and see what he wants. He said he did a job and needs me o chip up all of his crap. If I don't do it then he can't get paid. I told him firmly that the best I can do is look at it (it is right down the road) but it will be a while until I can get to it if at all. I am backed up with work. He argued that I was doing nothing right now so I have time to do his job. He was also drunk. So he was getting pushy and I said I would look at it and call him. No promises.He left but I know he will be back since every time this guy has come by so far I tell him to leave. I want to not deal with him anymore. I was just wondering if you guys had experience with this and what worked well.

I am sure he

 

[fastbub]

What part of Jersey are you from anyway?

Phillipsburg NJ

 

[ckliff]

Here we go again.

Hey, I found this thread very amusing, WTF sort of tree workers ya got, Louisiana ones?!

Only Ekka would find this amusing. In a sick sort of way of course. Everyone has troubles of some sort in this world...

This thread is more sad than amusing.

 

[Justice]

Hey fastbub, I'm in North Jersey.

I agree this is not very funny.

This guy does sound a little unstable, but from my experience they only respect one thing, FORCE. Drunks are like a nasty dog. The more you give the more they take. Pretty soon he is going to be sleeping in your spare bedroom.

IMO you should have told him NO. He is coming back for sure because you said "maybe". Next time will probably be at 2 or 3 in the morning. Time to do something about it, again IMO. Its not about work anymore, I would be more worried about what he might do to my family.

Let us know how it goes, and PM if you need to.

 

[hornett22]

Ekka would grief counsel him.

Here we go again.

Hey, I found this thread very amusing, WTF sort of tree workers ya got, Louisiana ones?!

and give him money.like a good liberal with poor problem solving skills.

 

[Mitchell]

solution

Sounds like this chap is bad news. As I detailed above I let my situation go to far and it only became worse.
One thought for you I have used in the past [with guys that have a conscience] is to lend the guy a few bucks say a 100. He will never be able to pay you back and if he has a conscience he won't show up and/ or you can say can't help until you pay me back.
Mind you, if the guy is as bad as he sounds that solution will only encourage him. Loaning money has helped my wife and I get rid of a few well meaning dead beats over the years; cheap solution.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

He wants me to drop my dinner and go work I would say $150/hour portal to portal with a signed contract.

Due completion.

Then when he cannot pay after the work is done the cops are called because he is "defrauding a merchant" and "drunk in public"

 

[lees trees]

how do you reason with a drunk? get tough or it will get worse

 

[911crash]

if you do it once its an open invitation for repeat visits. btw sounds like a guy i got rid of a month or so ago. its kinda like a courtesy cut you do for a homeowner it almost always bites you in the but.

 

[Timberhauler]

I have a climber who lives in my town who was fired/ let go fro a company a while ago and is doing side work by bicycle. He has an alcohol problem and keeps coming to my house to see if I will chip brush for him. I have told him no, but he keeps showing up. He comes around when only my wife is home and harasses her and he knows what equipment I have and where it is all stored. How do i get rid of him without pissing him off?

Does anybody else ever have problems like this? I seem to get all sorts of riff raff around here.

I had to handle a situation like this a while back...I would tell him that I'd be glad to do whatever,but for a $200 minimum and 200 an hour after the first hour.If you are concerned about your wife,then tell him to only stop by if you are home.....I wouldn't be afraid of being rude,most times you have to for them to get the message..Once I told this guy that I was dealing with,I never saw him again...I was kind enough to let him borrow my climber for one day,and he ended up paying him just a little over half of what I pay him for a day

 

[fastbub]

Thanks for all of the replies. I guess I am not the only one who deals with deadbeats around here. With regards to being rude or tough or "having a backbone" I am only trying to tread lightly because he seems like the kind of guy who would get back at me if I piss him off. From his ramblings I get that he feels slighted by "everybody" and he pretty much thinks I am out to get him too. I know it sounds crazy but that's because he is.