Husky 346 NE Echo 501

[damifino]

You Echo guys sure are sensitive..
I never said my comment was the final say.
Echo, Stihl, and Husqvarna are all reliable. There isn't one more so than the other on average.
As for parts availability and dealer support Echo is way behind the other two and Stihl is probably better than Husky in that regard
And faster cutting matters to most guys as does buying a modern saw in regards to antivibe, engine management, fuel economy. It's for these reasons that Echo isn't a major seller of saws and never will be. Primarily they are a seller of trimmers, blowers to the landscaper and lawn service markets.It'sth noting that I am no suggesting Echo makes low quality junk. That's not true. They just don't make modern saws that perform equal to Stihl or Husky. There is a reason they sell for less money.

Sounds like you are being more sensitve. I think you should purchase a Echo cs501 and actually give it a go, since you admit you do not have any modern day experience with Echo.

 

[bwalker]

Sounds like you are being more sensitve. I think you should purchase a Echo cs501 and actually give it a go, since you admit you do not have any modern day experience with Echo.

There is one echo dealer near me that doesn't stock saws any longer as they didn't sell.
I have seen one other Echo dealer in the multiple places I have lived.
So not only are they not available to me besides buying online, but I also have zero desire to buy an old design.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

You Echo guys sure are sensitive..
I never said my comment was the final say.
Echo, Stihl, and Husqvarna are all reliable. There isn't one more so than the other on average.
As for parts availability and dealer support Echo is way behind the other two and Stihl is probably better than Husky in that regard
And faster cutting matters to most guys as does buying a modern saw in regards to antivibe, engine management, fuel economy. It's for these reasons that Echo isn't a major seller of saws and never will be. Primarily they are a seller of trimmers, blowers to the landscaper and lawn service markets.It's worth noting that I am no suggesting Echo makes low quality junk. That's not true. They just don't make modern saws that perform equal to Stihl or Husky. There is a reason they sell for less money.

Echo dealer network is many and strong in my area. Again myself performance is close enough. This whole thread proves that.

 

[bwalker]

Ben.....I have read numerous posts by you. If anyone is brand sensitive it is you. Echo dealer network is many and strong in my area.

Admittedly I don't care for them and won't own one for the reasons I mentioned.
In your area is the key word. I bet Stihl sells more of a single model than Echo sells saws.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Admittedly I don't care for them and won't own one for the reasons I mentioned.
In your area is the key word. I bet Stihl sells more of a single model than Echo sells saws.

Makes no never mind to me.

 

[bwalker]

Makes no never mind to me.

You are the oddball saw king!

 

[rahtreelimbs]

You are the oddball saw king!

Yes sir......and don't forget it!

 

[bwalker]

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Makes no never mind to me.

In regards to this statement. "Echo dealer network is many and strong in my area. Again myself performance is close enough. This whole thread proves that."
This thread doesn't prove anything. Neither saw is stock and the Husqvarna may or may not have a stock piston. The echo has a gutted muffler vs. a Stock muffler on the 346 and that's just the stuff we know. On top of that the Husky is a 25 year old design that is three models back from current.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

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In regards to this statement. "Echo dealer network is many and strong in my area. Again myself performance is close enough. This whole thread proves that."
This thread doesn't prove anything. Neither saw is stock and the Husqvarna may or may not have a stock piston. The echo has a gutted muffler vs. a Stock muffler on the 346 and that's just the stuff we know. On top of that the Husky is a 25 year old design that is three models back from current.

Whatever.

 

[Marley5]

We like to argue saws, it's great.
My brother has a sawmill and won't even entertain a discussion without say'n " if it ain't Stihl it ain't real " .
For spite I show up on Saturdays with Echo's.

 

[echomeister]

I am waiting for a chance to show up with my joncutter. It's a beast

 

[bwalker]

Whatever

Just the facts.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Back when I tested my hacked on echo 490 and my OE 346.

Huskys are so smooth in the cuts.

Something I noticed was the vibrations felt with the echo plastic handles like on 490 4910.

Now with the better metal handle and rubber grip on 501 I didnt notice or feel the antivibe vibrations through handle.

I went and checked all the testings done overseas. But can only find husky, stihl, makita testings done at front and rear handles.

I am betting the plastic handles like echo and stihl use on some models do transmit more hertz vibrations.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

This guy that brought me a echo 400 to repair after a oops.

If he hadnt had the plastic handle breaking off at ends. Might have broken the mounting areas instead.
This model also came with metal or plastic handles.

So he wanted plastic back on it instead of better metal and rubber grip ones. I'll take metal and rubber grip all day.

 

[Franny K]

I went and checked all the testings done overseas. But can only find husky, stihl, makita testings done at front and rear handles.

From what I have read on here in years gone by the test numbers are an average of 3 measurements. One being idle, one being full throttle I presume under load, and another. Holding the thing and looking up to try and decide where to make the first cut vs in the cut are likely more important to one person vs another. I also wonder about the error bar on those numbers, I have a Husky 338xpt and saw back then the Jonsored version 2139 got quite a bit lower vibration rating in the documents I was looking at.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Just want to compare the 4910 and 501 handle vibrations felt for their 4910 490 plastic and 501 500 metal rubber coated front handles.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Was comparing something.

501 44mm bore x 33mm stroke.

Ne 346 44.3 bore x 32.5mm stroke

Dan Henry mm. The OE way we used to run them back in the day. Most I seen listed for gains on cut times from a stock OE 346 to a ported one was 58% gains back then. Talking in a work saw.

Tom Fales jr built the meanest 45cc OE alky/nitro saw race saw I ever saw and ran.

This saw right here OE ported ran with the best of them back in the day and ran 3/8 like a boss.

 

[bwalker]

Was comparing something.

501 44mm bore x 33mm stroke.

Ne 346 44.3 bore x 32.5mm stroke

Dan Henry mm. The OE way we used to run them back in the day. Most I seen listed for gains on cut times from a stock OE 346 to a ported one was 58% gains back then. Talking in a work saw.

Tom Fales jr built the meanest 45cc OE alky/nitro saw race saw I ever saw and ran.

This saw right here OE ported ran with the best of them back in the day and ran 3/8 like a boss.

I had a Dan Henry 372. I sent it back to him because it was a huge turd and graciously he gave me a full refund.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Love me some Dan Henry 346's 372's 084's.

Guess it all depends on who you doing them for.

0-51cc 2 cuts decent 8x8 poplar
1. cut4fun 5000 A 4.16
2. blsnelling 260 DQ 4.25
3. twinturboram 346 4.62 Dan Henry ported
4. wkpoor 346 5.22 4.90 Dan Henry ported
5. cut4fun 5000 B 5.97
6. andyshine 5100 6.81
7. woodheater 346 6.90
8. blsnelling 651 7.19
9.cut4fun 5000 C 8.00
10. kleinguy 270 8.69

0-81 2 cuts FIRM 8x8
monobill....375....4.15 Dan Henry ported
c4f..........375....4.30 Dan Henry ported
nwpa.......375.....4.50 Dan Henry ported
nwpa.......681....4.72
weasel.....441....5.36
mryb.......372.....5.95 Dan Henry ported
myrb......2171....7.59 Dan Henry ported
j.walker...375....7.68
myrb......038M...8.20
weasel....046....8.35
j.walker...575....8.58
monobill...372...8.93
al..........038M...9.05


0-100cc 2 cuts VERY FIRM 10x10
1. cut4fun 375 5.10 Dan Henry ported
2. blsnelling BB066 5.30
3. cut4fun 066RL 5.31
4. blsnelling 066RL2 6.60 6.10
5. andyshine 7900 7.37 6.59
6. blsnelling 460 6.60
7. twinturboram 681 7.62
8. wkpoor 395 8.12
9. andyshine 372 8.25
10. kleinguy 075 13.19
11. woodheater 372 13.41

100+ 2 cuts VERY FIRM 10x10
1. wkpoor 084 4.60 Dan Henry ported
2. cut4fun 084 4.90
3. blsnelling 084 10.16
4. Al Smith 038mag 12.40
5. Al Smith mac125super scratch


Then running my Dan Henry ported gas saw in alky/nitro 5ci class Chardon

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Dan Henry ported gas saw in 5ci alky/nitro saws class.

3 cuts cold start

0-5 Stock Appearing

Dan Duncan 5.14

Jay Coffman 5.36

Joe Lang 5.45

Woody Barry 5.64

Wayne Slayton 5.84

Kenny Heibert 5.91

Bill Cottrell 6.16

Kevin Smith 6.24 gas woods ported 375. Dan Henry ported work saw

Charlie Bishop 6.61

Coon Hanson 7.00

Harvey Shearer 7.32

Charlie Bishop 7.36

Larry Burkeen 7.73

Matthew Shearer 8.61

Robert Barry 15.05

Eric Copsey n/t