Is the chinese cheezewhizz carb just not good, or not big enough?? Wonder how it would do on maybe a 362. Of course at this point I'm sure you'd like take a BFH to it with all the trouble its given you.
Husky 365 special real or china ?
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Yes. :msp_biggrin:
Needle size , diaphram , passage hole locations were all different than any walbro I have seen, if I ever see another china ANABRA carb it will be to soon...lol
MCW
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That didn't take long.
I was going to work her tomorrow, so I ran her a bit tonight, adjusted the walbro and cut some cookies.
Not even a half hr. worth.
Tach said 10.500 at max.rpm H and L both 1 turn out.
Quit running , funny vibes coming after hard restart, thinking shes toast.
Will post pics of the carnage when I open her up if anyone is interested.
I was going to work her tomorrow, so I ran her a bit tonight, adjusted the walbro and cut some cookies.
Not even a half hr. worth.
Tach said 10.500 at max.rpm H and L both 1 turn out.
Quit running , funny vibes coming after hard restart, thinking shes toast.
Will post pics of the carnage when I open her up if anyone is interested.
hkusp9
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please post the pics of her guts. Im very new to chainsaws and trying to decide on what to purchase myself and this thread has made me a little more weary of buying anything online thats advertised as "new".
logger 12345
husqvarna pilot
as mentioned here in this thread it's NOT the engine that will worry you,china engines are great,in fact not much of a differnce in the cylinder & pistons apart from the plating,which the naked eye won't see,YES of course you are much better off with a husqvarna genuine engine which naturally will last much far longer than a china saw,but as i say the china engine won't be the weak point it is litterly everything else around the engine that will break & let the saw down!!! (plastics are junk) no point in having a working engine if there is nothing there to hold it together! so forget about the engine that really is the least of your worries in a CHINA saw.
Yoopermike
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This reminds me of when the chinks copied leupold scopes and were selling em left and right on e bay. All with the same peculiar serial number. I believe it is till an ongoing production as well. Although I believe leupold did file charges.
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
It's all about something for nothing. If companies charged a reasonable price for their products, and people expected to pay a reasonable price for a man's labor and products there'd be no room for this kind of stuff. Or rather it wouldn't be profitable to do it. But Husky and Stihl overcharge for their saws and leave the door open, and people are always looking for the killer deal (a new high end saw on CL?). Often the manufacturers are getting their parts from China rather than paying their own workers, and some of these parts are coming out of the same factories (surprise). The Chinese are clever people trying to survive, so they'll do what they can.
Something for nothing.
The reason we're so stuck on it is because of the distortions of plentiful, almost free energy, and more recently cheap and easy credit. We have in fact been living the something for nothing life for decades and think it's normal. But the whole gig is up anyway. Europe is being cut off from credit so they can't buy oil. Northern Europe won't be able to sell products to Southern Europe since the south is broke, so soon they'll all be broke. China needs a higher growth rate than they have now in order to keep their game going, and their huge holdings of euros will soon become worthless. You may not be able to get knock off saws from them forever. We'll have the energy Europe can't afford, but we don't have the industries anymore so the costs and options will be much more limited. It's a mess now, but these are the good old days.
Something for nothing.
The reason we're so stuck on it is because of the distortions of plentiful, almost free energy, and more recently cheap and easy credit. We have in fact been living the something for nothing life for decades and think it's normal. But the whole gig is up anyway. Europe is being cut off from credit so they can't buy oil. Northern Europe won't be able to sell products to Southern Europe since the south is broke, so soon they'll all be broke. China needs a higher growth rate than they have now in order to keep their game going, and their huge holdings of euros will soon become worthless. You may not be able to get knock off saws from them forever. We'll have the energy Europe can't afford, but we don't have the industries anymore so the costs and options will be much more limited. It's a mess now, but these are the good old days.
While I agree with most of your premise I take offense to the bold.
It was SUPPOSEDLY and APPARENTLY a NOS 365S boxed with papers. $ 550 isn't exactly something for nothing. Buyer beware , whos to say your local dealer couldn't get duped as well and then even YOU get screwed.
$550. aint chump change to most and sure doesn't come easy nowdays .
If the powers that be were worth 1/2 their salt these "copies" would never be sold in the US .
ChainFinn
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I donno has anybody said it already, but one weird thing in my eyes is the plastic pouch/wrap in which the saw hides. Ive opened sooooo many saw boxes and none had the plastic covers over Husqvarnas.
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
Sorry, no offense was intended. Something for nothing is an exaggeration of course, it's really just the pursuit of the good deal. There must have been some reason to buy a new saw on CL rather than from a dealer? We all do it - we all feel like we did a good job when we get a really good deal on whatever. We've been encouraged to feel that way, but should we? If we got a good deal didn't someone else get a bad deal? What if all our dealings were in the same town with people we know and live around - would it be cool to get a good deal then?
There's a family run pizza shop down the road from us, even though we live in the middle of nowhere. It's a big advantage for us, and they make great pizza. He has one of those punch card deals where after 10 stamps you get a free pie, but somehow I always lose my card. I know they're barely scraping by, and he gives me a good product for a fair price. That's good enough, I don't need a good deal, a fair deal is enough.
My reasoning was that the "365 special" has been discontinued for some time , and the advantage of this particular saw was the crank shaft and ease of BB conversion.
MCW
Somebody's talking crap here & it ain't the tree!
I actually feel sorry for you considering it was advertised as the real deal, the price was "around" the mark etc etc.
Unfortunately situations like this make many many people very wary of online dealings with anybody. There's a chance that even the seller thought it was original. I've had dealings with the Chinese before on chainsaw related matters and they'll always tell you that they source gear from the same factories as OEM suppliers. In many cases they are probably correct
I've had them tell me that their Stihl bars etc come from the same factories that make the REAL Stihl bars. They'll say anything to get business. I've even been supplied/given knock off Stihl RMC chain that is an EXACT replica of genuine Stihl and I'd guarantee that no dealer would be able to tell the difference unless they actually used it.Also like I've said before there are good knock off saws and bad knock off saws and you never quite know what you're getting as they all look the same at a glance
logger 12345
husqvarna pilot
my thinking is and always was,unless cash was really tight and i badly needed a cheap saw to get me out of trouble,otherwise i just would never buy a saw online anywhere,i would for the sake of a few hundread euros go to a legitimate husqvarna dealership to get my chainsaw,you get peace of mind,deffo the proper quality saw you want and a warrenty. what more could you need.
chainsaws are just too bloody dangerous to be trying to save some money on them,is it worth saving some money for a chain to come off and possibly put you in hospitall or worse kill you.....i wouldn't trust a china branded saw to use cutting paper.seriously!!
ok we hear it all the time and i'm sorry if this offends you but why on earth did you take the chance in the first place,do we ever learn..sorry to be so forward now,but stories like these even anoy me,i know you thought it was a legit saw but still it's a chance buying online all the time.... this is the place where china fake saws can be fobbed off quite easily to the none suspecting buyer who is honest and trusting enough to hand over the hard earned.
stories like this aggrovate me that customers just would rather save 150euros than go and get the real deal.
sorry for your loss.
chainsaws are just too bloody dangerous to be trying to save some money on them,is it worth saving some money for a chain to come off and possibly put you in hospitall or worse kill you.....i wouldn't trust a china branded saw to use cutting paper.seriously!!
ok we hear it all the time and i'm sorry if this offends you but why on earth did you take the chance in the first place,do we ever learn..sorry to be so forward now,but stories like these even anoy me,i know you thought it was a legit saw but still it's a chance buying online all the time.... this is the place where china fake saws can be fobbed off quite easily to the none suspecting buyer who is honest and trusting enough to hand over the hard earned.
stories like this aggrovate me that customers just would rather save 150euros than go and get the real deal.
sorry for your loss.
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The cord breaks on every one because of that sharp edge...you have to get in there with a round file and smooth it out...the carbs as mentioned are rubbish and impossible to adjust at all...the coils go after a few uses.. The plastic is all low grade and weak. The chain brake is flimsy..long story short...i have 4 in the shed i won't sell to anybody because they're just complete and utter rubbish on every level...trying to use one to cut firewood is an exercise in futility ....Sure you can upgrade all the parts around the cylinder and make it work but what a major hassle for a disposable pos.
Cut your losses and use it as a shed door stopper or garden gnome. The bars and chains i can't fault yet but to be honest i haven't put them through much. And yes back to page 1 of this thread...Country code CN on the box was all you needed to know. On the plus side for me...dealing in a few of these led to my love affair with real chainsaws..... Got myself an 090 for a bargain price yesterday and a 2100Cd a week before and getting a 395xp this week. I now have over 40 real saws in the shed....and 4 Chinese mistakes....
Cut your losses and use it as a shed door stopper or garden gnome. The bars and chains i can't fault yet but to be honest i haven't put them through much. And yes back to page 1 of this thread...Country code CN on the box was all you needed to know. On the plus side for me...dealing in a few of these led to my love affair with real chainsaws..... Got myself an 090 for a bargain price yesterday and a 2100Cd a week before and getting a 395xp this week. I now have over 40 real saws in the shed....and 4 Chinese mistakes....
AUSSIE1
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Chinese 365, ported BB kit still running strong till this day. I did change the carby as it wasn't up to the task of the BB kit.
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Aussie....Yes consider yourself lucky i say. The first one they sent me as a sample i passed on to a mate and he's been using it for 2 seasons straight out of the box and he's happy with it. The 5 i ordered were rubbish and although looked identical obviously came from a different factory. It's a lottery and the main thing the Chinese lack as we all know is consistency and quality control. You got a good one and might have a line of supply to one of the decent factories. That is pure luck mate. The average Joe contacting a random seller on Ali doesn't care will be throwing money into the wind and hoping. IMO. Everybody keeps saying that eventually the Chinese will get it right and they're improving like what happened with Japan and then Korea.....but it's a much slower process with China because the money is still flowing in and the pride in the work is non existent so as long as it LOOKS like it...that's good enough for them until people stop buying. You can buy a box set of albums by a band called Pink Gloyd if you want too. At least the music is the real deal. What's inside these chainsaws is not unless you are an experienced saw modifier and can make the cat squeal. My advice to people is not to be tempted. Each to their own.
MCW
Somebody's talking crap here & it ain't the tree!
When you order gear from China you have to get a reliable and honest supplier to guarantee consistency. There are a whole heap of Husky knock offs on the market. I was the one who supplied Al (AUSSIE1) and the fact it was a good saw was not luck. A lot of information traded hands from my supplier before these saws were imported - he had a number of manufacturers to pick from. As you mentioned if you have a random crack at Alibaba.com the chances of getting a reasonable deal is about 1 in 100. A lot more homework and testing is involved - consistency is not a Chinese strongpoint but if you can find a good supplier (middleman) who realises business will stop if he lets you down he'll look after you. Another thing to remember is never, ever pay upfront. Extremely tough to find a supplier that will send you gear prior to payment but it was possible in my case. As mentioned the standard carbies could not keep up at over 11,000rpm even on the 65cc top end. They didn't have a hope on the big bore top ends. The same supplier sourced a different brand of aftermarket carby and these have posed no problems at all. As mentioned despite these things proving to be a really good saw (for the price), the average customer wouldn't have picked up on the bad carbys and seized their saws quick smart. The Chinese seem to think it's OK for a saw to pull 10,500rpm no load out of the box
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AUSSIE1
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Yeah Matt supplied that saw and the BB kit. It's running the kit piston assy. The only thing I changed was the pin clips and a basic port job (tad longer than a waiting room sitting!).
What people have to realise is the Chinese are very capable of producing quality equal to the best. It's just not how they want to go about business.
And yes your right mate, each to their own.
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