Husky 570
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Anybody out there running a 570 Have a chance to pick one up for a decent price any opinions on them Is the 570 a smaller bored 575 or is it a different saw what parts will interchange
It is a much nicer saw than a lot of people here will lead you to believe.
That being said, it is heavy for the weight, and takes a bit to get started.
It is VERY smooth running, and I think just about everything is interchangeable with the 575. The manual is the same, most cosmetics, they weigh the same too, but the 575 has a higher top cover, probably because of the larger engine displacement, looks like a 385.
I had mine pulling a 24 inch bar in hardwoods just fine.
Put a 20" bar on it, and it was REALLY smokin.
That being said, it is heavy for the weight, and takes a bit to get started.
It is VERY smooth running, and I think just about everything is interchangeable with the 575. The manual is the same, most cosmetics, they weigh the same too, but the 575 has a higher top cover, probably because of the larger engine displacement, looks like a 385.
I had mine pulling a 24 inch bar in hardwoods just fine.
Put a 20" bar on it, and it was REALLY smokin.
SawTroll
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But you got rid of it anyway........:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
The power to weight ratio is really bad, otherwise it probably is a quite nice saw.
I wouldn't buy one, even at a bargain price, but that's just me....
The 570 is not a professional saw - the 575 is (XP). You can see it by the power to weight ratio, and in some time you'll see it in the durability of the saw. The 570 will wear out much sooner than the 575xp!
SawTroll
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I don't think so - the only differense worth speaking of is the engine.
The 570 is a pro quality saw, in about the same way as the 365/2165, 359/2159 and 353/2152, as far as I know.
How these saws are marketed differ from market to market, though.......
Btw, Welcome to Arboristsite!
I believe you are the first Dane here.
Thanks for the welcome Sawtroll.
Husqvarna manufactures their saws in different qualities for different markets and at different prices. Pro, farm or semi pro, and consumer. The pros are all marked "XP" so if a model is not marked "XP" it's not a pro saw!
My local Husqvarna dealer once told me that the calculated “lifetime” of a consumer saw was 1000 working hours, a semi pro 3000 working hours and the pro saws 6000 working hours. I don’t know if this is true but I do know that there is a considerable difference in durability between consumer saws, semi pro saws and pro saws. The lower power at the same weight at the 570 vs. the 575xp is due to a different and cheaper engine. Don't fool yourselves there is a reason for one model having a lower price than another.
Nor the 365, 353 or the 359 is pro (XP) saws and notice that none of the "XP" saws have a similar red (Jonsered) brother any more.
Husqvarna manufactures their saws in different qualities for different markets and at different prices. Pro, farm or semi pro, and consumer. The pros are all marked "XP" so if a model is not marked "XP" it's not a pro saw!
My local Husqvarna dealer once told me that the calculated “lifetime” of a consumer saw was 1000 working hours, a semi pro 3000 working hours and the pro saws 6000 working hours. I don’t know if this is true but I do know that there is a considerable difference in durability between consumer saws, semi pro saws and pro saws. The lower power at the same weight at the 570 vs. the 575xp is due to a different and cheaper engine. Don't fool yourselves there is a reason for one model having a lower price than another.
Nor the 365, 353 or the 359 is pro (XP) saws and notice that none of the "XP" saws have a similar red (Jonsered) brother any more.
BLACKeR
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im not buying that, friction is what kills engines. as long as the bore clearences are the same, and the cylinder lining is the same i dont think a pro engine is going to last twice as long as a semi pro engine. i suppose the port mapping could be different enough to cause a semi pro engine to run hotter, but its not likely. if anything logically a higher reving pro saw engine should last a shorter period of time. i would say as long as its a nikasil lined cylinder with tight bore clearences the engines are all going to go for about the same hours. could be wrong though.
The durability is due to quality in materials. The "XP"saws is with magnesium cast housing and the non "XP" is not, the crankshaft is different, sometimes the carburetor is different, and so on and so on. This difference in quality is in every part of the engine. A cheap saw is made cheap thats why its cheap!
sawtooth
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XP vs non XP
In the case of the 570 / 575xp and many other Husqvarna saws that are close "cousins" in design and construction, they share a lot of the same parts, including crankshafts and crankcases. I was always under the impression that the extra $$$ involved in the XP models was due to the extra machining /casting / tuning / whatever required to tweak out the higher RPM's and power.
I agree that on several non XP models they use more plastic, cheaper designs, etc.
But I'm talking about models like the 353, 359, 365, 570... these non-xp's are still made with the same quality materials as their xp cousins...and like someone said even though the "eXtra Power" isn't there they should last longer (in theory) because they're not "wound as tight". Great choices for firewood cutters in my opinion...but that's just lil ole me! :crazy1:
In the case of the 570 / 575xp and many other Husqvarna saws that are close "cousins" in design and construction, they share a lot of the same parts, including crankshafts and crankcases. I was always under the impression that the extra $$$ involved in the XP models was due to the extra machining /casting / tuning / whatever required to tweak out the higher RPM's and power.
I agree that on several non XP models they use more plastic, cheaper designs, etc.
But I'm talking about models like the 353, 359, 365, 570... these non-xp's are still made with the same quality materials as their xp cousins...and like someone said even though the "eXtra Power" isn't there they should last longer (in theory) because they're not "wound as tight". Great choices for firewood cutters in my opinion...but that's just lil ole me! :crazy1:
blis
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For example, only difference between 346xp/353 is cylinder, everything else is identical... AFAIK that also aplies to 357xp/359 and 365/372xp
Of cause they are great for cutting firewood - thats what they are made for. No reason for a occasional user to afford the high price for the professional models.
Hired Gun
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The 353, 359, and 365 are built to the exact same build quality as are the XP models, but due to cylinder design and porting, and in some cases carb/intake they don't produce quite as much power for a given displacement. They are still pro saws, just slightly milder than some of the XP models, and are tuned for slightly more torque and slightly less top end power. Unfortunately, many people think it has to say XP to be a pro saw, which isn't true. The XP models are however the higher performance models, so they are the choice of most professionals for daily work. The more expensive, more highly tuned cylinder on these models also accounts for most of the cost difference between these and their XP variant brothers.
A 365 is the exact same case and crankshaft as a 372XP, but with a different top end and carb/intake. Same with the 346XP and 353, The 359 and 357XP have a slightly different crank, different top end, but the case is the same. :newbie: :computer2: :help: :help: :help: :taped:
A 365 is the exact same case and crankshaft as a 372XP, but with a different top end and carb/intake. Same with the 346XP and 353, The 359 and 357XP have a slightly different crank, different top end, but the case is the same. :newbie: :computer2: :help: :help: :help: :taped:
MAG58
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barkies
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:greenchainsaw: :deadhorse: thanks for the replies I have run a 575 and 20" bar trimming syp poles and it is a good running saw. Seems to feel heavier than my 372 Anyway thought I would get some opinions though I would take a 372 any day over them. Maybe thell build a head for the 5 series saw that displaces 85 or more ccs then you could tote that extra weight and be happy about it
SawTroll
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That is positively wrong!
That is right!
The only xps without a red cousin are the 338xpt, 339xp, 575xp, 395xp and 3120xp, i.e. the smallest and the largest ones + the newest one.
Some times it has been a few years before the red version have appeared, some times they have come at about the same time.
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SawTroll
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MAG58
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Yes, and the cylinder make the "XP" a different animal, more RPM whit more Hp.
And they are all Pro saw's.
:love1:
SawTroll
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....."eXtra Performance", really...
StIhL MaGnUm
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I gotta say not a big fan of the 570 , my boss bought one for me the other week and just got a chance to use it today , falling mostly white pine 16-24" DBH timber . Saw is running 20" bar with round filed 3/8's , from my standpoint this saw is nothing more than a boat anchor .
Saw does not rev at all , feels and acts very sluggish . Tried adjusting carb to help it some with really not very much for results . Going to remove limiters tomorrow and see if I can get it to run any better . But as for it replacing the 372 that has to be one of the dumbest moves on Husqvarnas part .
It is almost the same weight as my 385 with not even half the power or torque given it's a 15 or so cc difference , but compare the 372 to a 385 and you'll see what I'm talking about . So needless to say I dont like this saw at all , and think I will stick with cutting with my 385 or I'll pull the 372 out of the truck .
Later Rob
Saw does not rev at all , feels and acts very sluggish . Tried adjusting carb to help it some with really not very much for results . Going to remove limiters tomorrow and see if I can get it to run any better . But as for it replacing the 372 that has to be one of the dumbest moves on Husqvarnas part .
It is almost the same weight as my 385 with not even half the power or torque given it's a 15 or so cc difference , but compare the 372 to a 385 and you'll see what I'm talking about . So needless to say I dont like this saw at all , and think I will stick with cutting with my 385 or I'll pull the 372 out of the truck .
Later Rob
