i did it

[treeslayer2003]

i finely bought another loader. this one has a live heel witch should handle these large sticks better......i hope lol.

 

[treeslayer2003]

you guys that have run these bigger live heel machines, i kinda am lookin for pointers as i never have run one before.
we been on a 8 stick average for a while witch puts the average stick at around 7-8000 pounds. looks like i may even have some 5-6 count loads in the future.
i know every thing has a limit but will this thing likely heel a 50' stick that heavy? i been loading one end at a time with our old loader, wondering how much different this will be..........
i know at least one of you has run this stuff..........hi Bob lol.

 

[SliverPicker]

I ran a '92 JD490 for a while. It would not heel up a stick that big. Not even a dry spruce. I could sling 26"-33" green spruce at 33' like nothing, but when we got 50' house logs, no bueno. As far as that Barko goes I have no idea.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Silver did that deere have a live heel?

 

[SliverPicker]

Sorry, I forgot to mention that. Yes, it had a live heel. Those big sticks would just squeeze the juice right out of the heel cylinder.

 

[DavdH]

We use a 275 to deck redwood, it will handle and impressive stick. Most of our wood is 32-40' length up to 36" on the big end, the bigger logs are bucked into 16's and 20s' before we get them because they don't have a big enough loader in the woods to load the bigger logs. If you cannot heel them, load from the side one end at a time, I can't imagine you will get into much timber it can't handle, most of our loggers are limited by skidder, yarder capacity not loader size.

This is a big stick, no problem...3-8 log loads are normal here, up to 80,000lbs.

 

[hammerlogging]

Well there ya go!

 

[Gologit]

Mike....I've never run a 275 so I can't say for sure but I think DavidH has a good handle on it.
The Barkos I've run always seemed to have problems with cracking on the booms but they were pretty ancient, too.
Good luck with your new machine.

 

[treeslayer2003]

We use a 275 to deck redwood, it will handle and impressive stick. Most of our wood is 32-40' length up to 36" on the big end, the bigger logs are bucked into 16's and 20s' before we get them because they don't have a big enough loader in the woods to load the bigger logs. If you cannot heel them, load from the side one end at a time, I can't imagine you will get into much timber it can't handle, most of our loggers are limited by skidder, yarder capacity not loader size.

This is a big stick, no problem...3-8 log loads are normal here, up to 80,000lbs.

thanks, that looks almost just like this one............y'all heel wood backwards........LOL. it does seem different to me, how do ya know if your to close the cab?
one end at time is what we been doing for years with the smaller loader, im an old hand at that lol.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Mike....I've never run a 275 so I can't say for sure but I think DavidH has a good handle on it.
The Barkos I've run always seemed to have problems with cracking on the booms but they were pretty ancient, too.
Good luck with your new machine.

i can't for see this thing cracking, its huge......
thanks Bob

hey there Joe

 

[madhatte]

Not sure how much the log length matters to the loader if the mill doesn't want those lengths. As long as you're loading what they're buying, you should be golden.

 

[DavdH]

We heel em backwards and forwards to make the decks stay up and look good, we are putting them 30+ feet up, if ya put them all the same way they tend to slide off on the loader, makes lots of paper work if some one gets hurt, I don't like paper work and I even sorta like my crew. Appearances are everything when dealing with log brokers.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Not sure how much the log length matters to the loader if the mill doesn't want those lengths. As long as you're loading what they're buying, you should be golden.

the only pine mill here wants 52' min........30" dbh with no taper that long is a heavy stick.

 

[treeslayer2003]

i get ya there David.......but i meant loading a truck. the pics i have seen show the loader behind the truck heeling from the small end. seems like it would be hard to judge where the butt end is.

 

[bitzer]

I know how you could figure it out Mike.

 

[northmanlogging]

i get ya there David.......but i meant loading a truck. the pics i have seen show the loader behind the truck heeling from the small end. seems like it would be hard to judge where the butt end is.

They grab whatever end they can get to, spin em around to make a nice tight load. Here the trailer often times can carry more then the truck so they stack the weight more that way, or vice versa. Its mostly about keeping legal axle weights, CA and OR are a little different, here its all on axle spacing, tires, rating blah fricking blah... (I hear this from one of the self loader jockeys all the time on why he only gets x pounds on the truck...(which don't matter cause they are all rated for the same amount just one of em doesn't give a **** and loads until it looks good))

 

[treeslayer2003]

ah, so y'all haul um butt and tipped.........nope, they demand all one way here.

bitz.......you bein bad? you got plenty o youngans already lol.

 

[madhatte]

the only pine mill here wants 52' min........30" dbh with no taper that long is a heavy stick.

Is that going as poles? 'Round here, most folks looking for stuff that's not specifically poles want 40' or less, and generally 28'-34', or at least the FSC-certified mills we deal with.

 

[treeslayer2003]

no, to big for poles..........IDK why they want um so long.......just to be difficult i guess. 42' would be much more managable and the top would be about as long as the butt and make for a better looking load......and i wouldn't have to stuff the short tops in the middle.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Pilings?

to big for most pilings.........that stuff they liked around a 24" butt and like 90' with little taper. straight of course. that market dried up years ago.
oh, those big power poles are being replaced with steel