I feel bad that I didn't catch this

[Ed Crawford]

I just bought a new 2258 a couple of weeks ago. My dealer had to order it in. He could only get them without a bar and chain. No problem, I'll just buy a bar and chain from him. I told him I wanted a 18" .050 bar with a semi chisel chain. He said that was no problem and that he always installed .050 setups anyway, unless otherwise specified.

Well, I stopped in to pick it up and he had a 18" power match bar on it. That's fine with me. All of my focus is on the saw. I'm looking it over, everything looks good. I glance at the bar and see 18" 3/8. I pulled on the chain, felt good. We're good to go, or so I thought.

I get home, check the bar oil, it's full. It's fueled up with premix from the saw shop. We're ready to cut some wood.

I cut a dead 16" oak that kept dropping 6' sections of top across the driveway when the wind would pick up. I saw it up into short sections so I can move it to the burn pile with my tractor and put the saw up for the evening.

Today, I decided to go cut up another oak that had blown over before we moved into the house we're in now. As I'm halfway through the butt of the tree, I see a spark come from the chain. I stop the cut and notice my chain is really loose and hot on the tip of the bar. I knew the tip had grease in it. What's the deal? I pull the bar off and check it out. What the??? It's a .058 gauge bar and came from Oregon with a .325 tip on it. The bar is stamped 3/8. I noticed that before I left the shop, but failed to notice that it was a .058 gauge bar. I also didn't notice that the chain didn't fit in the tip right and neither did the dealer. That's what worries me. Lol. Oh well, back to the dealer tomorrow and hopefully come back with a new bar and chain. We'll see how that goes in the morning.

 

[Deleted member 149229]

 

[Ed Crawford]

I can't find this part number anywhere.

 

[Deleted member 149229]

Tried that number on the Oregon site and it went “Huh?” Thats weird. It’s an 18” .058 but all the Zs make no sense.

 

[Ed Crawford]

Tried that number on the Oregon site and it went “Huh?” Thats weird.

Same here. I refined it to all 18" bars and came up with nothing. The ZZZ in the part # is weird. I could get the 188 prefix and the 095 suffix, but no part number had anything similar to a ZZZK

 

[svk]

I’ve nevet seen one with all Z’s in the middle and it’s not a standard Oregon nomenclature.

Does the rivet in the nose look like it was factory installed?

 

[Ed Crawford]

 

[Ed Crawford]

 

[svk]

Looks peened in a workshop and not a factory....wonder if this was accidentally put back in a new box?

 

[Ed Crawford]

Looks peened in a workshop and not a factory....wonder if this was accidentally put back in a new box?

I'm not sure. I'm going to head back to the saw shop in the morning. I'll find out if they installed the wrong bar and tip on purpose or if it came from Oregon like this.

 

[Deleted member 149229]

Looks peened in a workshop and not a factory....wonder if this was accidentally put back in a new box?

In our plant XXX or ZZZ signified that that part could not be used as new but RP only (replacement part). Maybe other places do that and somebody missed it.

 

[Ed Crawford]

In our plant XXX or ZZZ signified that that part could not be used as new but RP only (replacement part). Maybe other places do that and somebody missed it.

You may be on to something there.

 

[svk]

In our plant XXX or ZZZ signified that that part could not be used as new but RP only (replacement part). Maybe other places do that and somebody missed it.

No idea...the normal Oregon bar nomenclature is for replacement bars.

Maybe @SawTroll would know

 

[Deleted member 149229]

No idea...the normal Oregon bar nomenclature is for replacement bars.

Maybe @SawTroll would know

Duh! Never thought of it that way, every bar you buy is a replacement.

 

[Justsaws]

Bar body was stamped to indicate the tip could be changed to multiple part numbers.

You will see blanked or missing numbers on lots of bars. Sometimes double stamped.

 

[Little Al]

Usual set up #ing for a bar that can be fitted with a different pitch tip from new bit of "nowt nor summat" set up that I thought had taken the trip some years back it came about I understand when tips where made to accept any gauge of a certain pitch ie a 3/8 x 050 bar the tip fitted would be 3/8 but accept 050,058,or 063 gauge chain sort of one tip fits all instead of having a different one for each gauge from the days of single,3,5 9, rivet tips

 

[SawTroll]

Bar body was stamped to indicate the tip could be changed to multiple part numbers.

Yes, as I recall it, it was used on RSN bar bodies, when different noses would result in different letters fitting where the "xxx" (or "zzz") was stamped.

Some speculation on the subject;

The exemple (in post #3) where "zzz" is used in combination with the pitch (3/8") also being stamped on the bar body looks a bit odd (and isn't typical as I recall it, maybe that is why they used "zzz" instead of "xxx"?) - but at least at times there were different 3/8" tip options that would fit the same bar body, and affect what should be where "zzz" is.
The way that bar body is marked may hide the fact that tips in other pitches also will fit though, unless you are aware that 3/8" 68 dl just is an exemple of what may fit.

A "z" in Oregon bar numbers used to be sort of a "heads up, something is unusual here" - and if a .325 tip was put on that bar body the dl count would not be the standard 72 one for an 18" .325 K095 bar, but rather 76 dl or so.

 

[Ed Crawford]

Yes, as I recall it, it was used on RSN bar bodies, when different noses would result in different letters fitting where the "xxx" (or "zzz") was stamped.

Some speculation on the subject;

The exemple (in post #3) where "zzz" is used in combination with the pitch (3/8") also being stamped on the bar body looks a bit odd (and isn't typical as I recall it, maybe that is why they used "zzz" instead of "xxx"?) - but at least at times there were different 3/8" tip options that would fit the same bar body, and affect what should be where "zzz" is.
The way that bar body is marked may hide the fact that tips in other pitches also will fit though, unless you are aware that 3/8" 68 dl just is an exemple of what may fit.

A "z" in Oregon bar numbers used to be sort of a "heads up, something is unusual here" - and if a .325 tip was put on that bar body the dl count would not be the standard 72 one for an 18" .325 K095 bar, but rather 76 dl or so.

Interesting. One question though..... What is a RSN bar?

 

[Ed Crawford]

I just came back from the saw shop. They went "Humm......" and handed me a new, correct Husqvarna bar. He then said "anything else I can do for you?" I said "Well, the drivers on this chain are boogered up from running on the wrong bar y'all installed." He put the chain on the new bar and said "Yeah, I'd run it loose for a little bit to knock those burrs off." I thought..... Okay. The chain isn't that bad, but it's the principal of the whole thing. I feel as if a chain should have came home with me too. I walked out as the owner was walking in. He asked what was wrong and I told him what had happened. He said "Humm....I didn't notice that when I put it on." I then asked him about the chain and he said it was okay. So, I just came home with a new bar. The chain ain't nothing a file won't quickly fix.

 

[Beetlejuice]

Brought back memories of past sins.. I had just started dinking around with saws, though had work on small engines since childhood, about 4 yrs ago. Not doing my homework, or research, as the case may be, was putting bars and chains on anything that would start. Sart and running was goal. Ruined more chains and sprockets on small plastic saws. Still have them hanging on the hitching post as a reminder.. I don't work on anything, saw or otherwise, without due diligence. I'm sure this story rings true with many of saw enthusiasts out there.. Cheers, K