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[Moggy]

I have joined to ask wot i need to buy as my brother is goin on a coarse to learn how to be an arborist. He has a chainsaw and protective trousers, gloves and helmet already but i have no idea wot to buy to get him started in the tree climbing area. please help me. Moggy

 

[banshee67]

unfortunately you cant buy a big set of balls for him!
most climbers come equipped with giant balls, just watch em work

 

[dandandatreeman]

Go to sherill....they have a sponsored site on here. Climbing harness, rope....spurs for removals only....and a lot of hard work. Good luck to him.

 

[dandandatreeman]

LOL banchee I have gottin so use to my huge balls I forgot about them too!

 

[treemandan]

Get him a gift certificate and say " Good luck bro, don't cut off anything important"

 

[tomtrees58]

unfortunately you cant buy a big set of balls for him!
most climbers come equipped with giant balls, just watch em work

:agree2:tom trees

 

[treeseer]

For climbing, balance is key, and brains are very useful. Balls are optional; too much ballsiness can definitely be an impediment to learning, and lead to bad decisions.

Some excellent climbers are women--what would you call what they have?

 

[ropensaddle]

For climbing, balance is key, and brains are very useful. Balls are optional; too much ballsiness can definitely be an impediment to learning, and lead to bad decisions.

Some excellent climbers are women--what would you call what they have?

Well seer since balls are merely a metaphor for courage they have a set too I suppose. Balls are not optional either friend there are times where courage is needed to effectively perform our work. Yes balance and brains go a long way but I have seen much smarter than I, that;could not dream of limb walking a pecan to reduce even the lowest limbs.

 

[treeseer]

... limb walking a pecan to reduce even the lowest limbs.

ropen when i do this i attribute the ability more to balance than anything. Courage to me is more about risking one's ego than one's body. The big joke is, once one understands the use of ropes and gear, physical risk gets minimized in a hurry, and we mondo macho industrial athletes are in large part putting on an empty show.

Thomas Paine had more courage than The Flying Wallendas, who had far more than us guys with ropesnsaddles. Sorry, but it's true. Or I'm bored with it, maybe. No offense meant.

 

[RVALUE]

An interesting thought provoking comment:

Some time after I broke my back, and was re-cuperating, I went to trim an elm. I set the bucket on a gravel parking lot, and began with an inexperienced 'kid' on the ground. After a while, and when I was 'strait out' to the side, the foot started into the gravel. I hollered to "fix it". He started to raise the foot, and I freaked. I got him stopped before the truck went over, but I LOST MY NERVE and had to come down. It took two hours to get back in. Most of this was because I could barely walk, and couldn't compensate at all for a mishap.

So my point is: IF you can lose your nerve, (the basic assumption is that you had it before) then it is possible to never have had "your nerve". Some people can't do this period. With no amount of equipment or training. Fortuneately, there is a name for them. Mostly, they are called customers.

Have a good day tomorrow, friends.

 

[ropensaddle]

ropen when i do this i attribute the ability more to balance than anything. Courage to me is more about risking one's ego than one's body. The big joke is, once one understands the use of ropes and gear, physical risk gets minimized in a hurry, and we mondo macho industrial athletes are in large part putting on an empty show.

Thomas Paine had more courage than The Flying Wallendas, who had far more than us guys with ropesnsaddles. Sorry, but it's true. Or I'm bored with it, maybe. No offense meant.

To me the most courage I have heard of was Louis and Clark when they came up to the Dakota Sioux and captain Clark finally told the chief we are leaving surely you can overtake us if it is your wish but how many men are you prepared to lose doing so. Those guys were very courageous and determined men. Of course many men in battle are courageous it is just their party was very,very small in comparison to the tribe in their midst. They were truly going into the unknown be about like us going to the middle of the Alaskan frontier with muskets and unfriendly's today.

To me courage is the opposite of cowardice. The most honorable courage is doing the right thing even when you know it puts yourself in harms way. I have deep respect for soldiers who have to experiance fear and overcome it in battle and often wondered my own effectiveness in that situation. I feel I would overcome but really you don't know till your in a serious fire fight I suppose.

 

[Tree Pig]

For climbing, balance is key, and brains are very useful. Balls are optional; too much ballsiness can definitely be an impediment to learning, and lead to bad decisions.

Some excellent climbers are women--what would you call what they have?

Well seer since balls are merely a metaphor for courage they have a set too I suppose. Balls are not optional either friend there are times where courage is needed to effectively perform our work. Yes balance and brains go a long way but I have seen much smarter than I, that;could not dream of limb walking a pecan to reduce even the lowest limbs.

I got to agree with Rope here. Actually I agree with both of you in your own ways your both correct but I think Rope has a very valid point just in the sense that even with great balance and years of experience I still think it takes big metaphoric balls to climb a tree with a saw. You get down from a tree and try to explain to someone who doesn't climb that you really do your best to limit your risk with proper training ropes and experience they still think your nuts.

 

[treeseer]

You get down from a tree and try to explain to someone who doesn't climb that you really do your best to limit your risk with proper training ropes and experience they still think your nuts.

And maybe we are!

 

[ropensaddle]

And maybe we are!

Lmfao no way, can't be, I still have all six toes and it is Monday isn't it:monkey:

 

[ChiHD]

I got to agree with Rope here. Actually I agree with both of you in your own ways your both correct but I think Rope has a very valid point just in the sense that even with great balance and years of experience I still think it takes big metaphoric balls to climb a tree with a saw. You get down from a tree and try to explain to someone who doesn't climb that you really do your best to limit your risk with proper training ropes and experience they still think your nuts.

SOM I like your new ad campaign, I may have to use it! Maybe I'll change it to "will work for wood and gas money" though. Maybe that's asking for too much?

 

[Treecutr]

To me the most courage I have heard of was Louis and Clark when they came up to the Dakota Sioux and captain Clark finally told the chief we are leaving surely you can overtake us if it is your wish but how many men are you prepared to lose doing so. Those guys were very courageous and determined men. Of course many men in battle are courageous it is just their party was very,very small in comparison to the tribe in their midst. They were truly going into the unknown be about like us going to the middle of the Alaskan frontier with muskets and unfriendly's today.

To me courage is the opposite of cowardice. The most honorable courage is doing the right thing even when you know it puts yourself in harms way. I have deep respect for soldiers who have to experiance fear and overcome it in battle and often wondered my own effectiveness in that situation. I feel I would overcome but really you don't know till your in a serious fire fight I suppose.

Well, having experienced combat, maybe I can open up a little here on my experience. January 17th, 2008, Salman Pak, Iraq. A sniper missed me by maybe a foot or two. I wasn't scared, I was REALLY REALLY pissed, he kept me pinned for about 5 minutes in that tower.( felt like 30 ) I couldn't get up to return fire, I knew if I sat up to return fire with my sniper rifle, or my M4, he would have hit me. There was a long pause in his firing, I figured he was reloading. I account it to balls, and a little knowledge of foreign sniper rifles, that I got up, and got to a different position, and returned fire, I'm here, he's not. So balls, and knowledge will get the job done. I guess in tree work we all hit spots where we have to have the balls to go a little further out, or a little higher, or take a little bigger piece. so " balls " help too. In every fire fight after that incident, i was never freaked out until the next day, when I had time to think about it, or in some cases see the wall I was leaning against an saw all the bullet impacts on it and wonder, how they hell didn't I get hit. LOL don't thank me for doing my job, I knew what I signed up for, and knew what I volunteered for when I said " I'll go " when they asked for volunteers. Sorry for rambling on. Bottom line, Thanks Rope

 

[ropensaddle]

Well, having experienced combat, maybe I can open up a little here on my experience. January 17th, 2008, Salman Pak, Iraq. A sniper missed me by maybe a foot or two. I wasn't scared, I was REALLY REALLY pissed, he kept me pinned for about 5 minutes in that tower.( felt like 30 ) I couldn't get up to return fire, I knew if I sat up to return fire with my sniper rifle, or my M4, he would have hit me. There was a long pause in his firing, I figured he was reloading. I account it to balls, and a little knowledge of foreign sniper rifles, that I got up, and got to a different position, and returned fire, I'm here, he's not. So balls, and knowledge will get the job done. I guess in tree work we all hit spots where we have to have the balls to go a little further out, or a little higher, or take a little bigger piece. so " balls " help too. In every fire fight after that incident, i was never freaked out until the next day, when I had time to think about it, or in some cases see the wall I was leaning against an saw all the bullet impacts on it and wonder, how they hell didn't I get hit. LOL don't thank me for doing my job, I knew what I signed up for, and knew what I volunteered for when I said " I'll go " when they asked for volunteers. Sorry for rambling on. Bottom line, Thanks Rope

Well I will thank you even if you did know what you were signing onto. It don't matter to me what we were over there for either. The only thing that matters is you were serving the USA. You put your life at stake so that we could remain as free as we are and that does deserve thanks and rep when I re-load