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Hey SJ, you can have all the price hunting customers you can take, their nothing but a pain and never loyal.

Yarnell rolls "Proud of our quality work". Seems to work very well, but they've been at since the 70's and their reputation is damn good.

My company is called "Great Outdoors", so I use the acronym of G.O. with Great Outdoors for your outdoor needs. Seems to work pretty well. I always focus on educating customers that my price might not be the cheapest, but my quality to price ratio can not be beat.

BTW, my boss said crane work prices have been low lately, let's try and get that back up! haha If everyone would only realize that if we all raised our prices across the board a little, we'd all be in a better spot.....always a few guys that will never understand that though.
 
Hey SJ, you can have all the price hunting customers you can take, their nothing but a pain and never loyal.

Yarnell rolls "Proud of our quality work". Seems to work very well, but they've been at since the 70's and their reputation is damn good.

My company is called "Great Outdoors", so I use the acronym of G.O. with Great Outdoors for your outdoor needs. Seems to work pretty well. I always focus on educating customers that my price might not be the cheapest, but my quality to price ratio can not be beat.

BTW, my boss said crane work prices have been low lately, let's try and get that back up! haha If everyone would only realize that if we all raised our prices across the board a little, we'd all be in a better spot.....always a few guys that will never understand that though.

How ya been man? yeah I'm starting to compete with two of the 'big dogs' in my area. One is a very respectable company, they do good work and his prices have always been right in line with mine. The other is a complete ass. Slashing everyones prices by at least a third. Kinda got the inside scoop on them as their climber couldn't handle their hackery anymore and now works for me lol.. Quality is the last thing they care about, they're trying to corner the market around here by just pumping out pure volume. They're really screwing things up around here for a lot of people
 
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While I'm small and basically a one man show getting off the ground this summer, I've noticed that certain folks feel they are getting more if they have to pay a little more. It was hard for me to trust that some people really feel this way but once I figured this out, although small jobs and sometimes tedious, I've gotten more work from some higher paying customers. That said, I'm careful not to take on more than I can deal with. Though I'm insured and licensed, I'm honest with potential customers and I let them know I have limitations or if I'm not comfortable doing a particular job. I think building trust in the first few minutes by simply being honest about things like that has gotten me some decent work. I don't think most hacks will admit their limitations. I'm ok with a price match but I make no pretense of being able to beat all other bids. I'm comfortable with a price match because my overhead is low, but I won't under bid out of desperation because people can see through that.
 
Best Pricing, Quality & Service GUARANTEED!

Coupons work well for me

10% any tree service of $900 or less

$100 off any tree service of $1000 or more

List all your services included
 
I have been thinking of changing my company's name to "Cheapest Bastard Tree Service". It would be so much fun answering the phone like that: "Cheapest Bastard, how may I help you?"

The slogan could be something like "fully insured, for everyone's protection".
 
I have been thinking of changing my company's name to "Cheapest Bastard Tree Service". It would be so much fun answering the phone like that: "Cheapest Bastard, how may I help you?"

The slogan could be something like "fully insured, for everyone's protection".


Cheap Bastard don't come with ins.
 
"Pay now or Pay later, if they are charging less there is probably a reason"
 
couple real good ones here guys. got till noon tomorrow to come up with something catchy.. I list all our services and some coupons. I was really trying to get the point across of 'you get what you pay for' without really dogging the comp and in one catchy little phrase. Some of these price slashers around here do just godawefull work and they all say we'll meet or beat any competitors price. That's why I never really advertised, most of our work has always been word of mouth but now we're expanding
 
"Pay now or Pay later, if they are charging less there is probably a reason"

Yeah, but what if they (the hacks) have some wtc's, a couple cranes and some triaxles, and you just actually kinda sucked, in all reality?? Just saying, and it's something to think about (for me anyway)..

Its nasty out there man!! :cheers:
 
You don't want to sound cheap but it's all about getting the call. Once you get your foot in the door it's time work your magic. You can't compare apple to oranges so just be honest sell what you have and other don't.
 
Maybe you can use the words "trust" and/or "reliable". Like , try and get the point across that you provide a "higher level of service you can rely on" or ...heck IDK. I wish I could be more help but man I am tired.
 
I almost hate giving out advertising ideas but I guess I don't have much competition on here.


If you want to get the better clients out of it a good way to put it is "Do you value your trees?" It makes the statement that you aren't necessarily cheap but you are the right guy to hire if they want a pro. If you are just going after tree removal only, cheap is the name of the game. As far as they are concerned as long as they carry insurance the end result is the same -> no more tree. Even rich folks won't spend a lot of money on tree removal... however pruning and planting $$$$$$$$$$
 
How ya been man? yeah I'm starting to compete with two of the 'big dogs' in my area. One is a very respectable company, they do good work and his prices have always been right in line with mine. The other is a complete ass. Slashing everyones prices by at least a third. Kinda got the inside scoop on them as their climber couldn't handle their hackery anymore and now works for me lol.. Quality is the last thing they care about, they're trying to corner the market around here by just pumping out pure volume. They're really screwing things up around here for a lot of people

We're busy at Yarnell, lots of hand work/pruning. Starting to replace some of the old equipment too. Demoing a 20" Rayco next month and Rayco Ron is bringing a 13" Morbark for a demo tomorrow. Our faithful 1994 Morbark 17 has a cracked drum. Hoping to have our "baby" crane (17 ton) back in action later this summer too.

Saw you guys in bainbridge/Chagrin a few weeks back. Equipment looks good!

I'm pretty sure I know who you are talking about in terms of hacks, but feel free to let me know via pm. I don't wanna bad mouth other companies, but would like to know for potential clients.

There is a new sealcoating company a former co-worker just started. He has a good slogan, "Quality is our bottom line"
 
I almost hate giving out advertising ideas but I guess I don't have much competition on here.


If you want to get the better clients out of it a good way to put it is "Do you value your trees?" It makes the statement that you aren't necessarily cheap but you are the right guy to hire if they want a pro. If you are just going after tree removal only, cheap is the name of the game. As far as they are concerned as long as they carry insurance the end result is the same -> no more tree. Even rich folks won't spend a lot of money on tree removal... however pruning and planting $$$$$$$$$$

Ya, tree care is definitely more sustainable. Plus, with established tree care clients, you get their removal jobs automatically.
 
We're busy at Yarnell, lots of hand work/pruning. Starting to replace some of the old equipment too. Demoing a 20" Rayco next month and Rayco Ron is bringing a 13" Morbark for a demo tomorrow. Our faithful 1994 Morbark 17 has a cracked drum. Hoping to have our "baby" crane (17 ton) back in action later this summer too.

Saw you guys in bainbridge/Chagrin a few weeks back. Equipment looks good!

I'm pretty sure I know who you are talking about in terms of hacks, but feel free to let me know via pm. I don't wanna bad mouth other companies, but would like to know for potential clients.

There is a new sealcoating company a former co-worker just started. He has a good slogan, "Quality is our bottom line"

Glad to hear all is well down that way man. Yeah we've been doing a lot of work in the Bainbridge area lately.

Gotta give props to rayco's service. Blew a hydraulic line on the new grinder, it was routed in a way where it rubbed and the line blew. I called Ron about 9:30 last night and #####ed.. He picked up the grinder this morning and had it back to the shop fixed by the end of the day.Would love to demo one of their chippers, they do look beefy..

I'll pm you about the hack, chances are you know the name. Lucky you your about 12 miles away, this a##hole is in my backyard..
 
ours is "prompt service, fair prices, honest work"

I try to deliver on that. My prices certainly arent the cheapest, and I don't compete on price. I tell that to customers straight up. Some simply are looking for the cheapest price. You don't want to waste too much time on those quotes. If you're not competing on price, and are quoting a job to a customer who values quality, those types of people make the decision on whether to use you or not before they've heard your price. The trick is figuring which type of customer you've got before you spend half an hour there.

I start by listening. When I get to the site, They take me to whatever they've got that needs doing and I tell me what they need. I then ask a simple question like "what are you planning on doing with this area once the tree's out", or "how long are you planning on living here?". The answer to those questions usually tells you which type of customer you've got, and lets them know that you're not just there to make a quick buck.

If you've got a keeper, spend some time there and demonstrate your knowledge and skill. I dont go giving out details of how i'll do the job, but I do show that I know what I'm doing... like "We can do some weight reduction on this branch since you're planning on living here until you retire. I can take 15% off these 2 branches here, thin out this area a little so you'll get some winter sun, and take out that other crossed over limb. You'll want to leave this for a couple years after, but it's still not fully mature and its vigorous so it will recover just fine. In the long term we'll bring it into a better shape, and the way we cut the tree it won't sprout back and turn into a bush like that tree over there (pointing out a bad tree)".

Don't give details on how you make the cuts though, or where. You don't want to demystify it too much ;-) I also give out some info on what other trees they have, anything that looks like it will be a future problem like large invasive trees that are small at the time of quoting etc. I do a bit of fruit tree shaping, so I point that out if they have fruit trees. I upsell a bit of work this way, or keep my price high and throw in a little pruning for free which makes it hard to compare my quote to other guys who just came and said "I'll cut it down for $1000". Because I've offered a different service/work, its harder to compare my price directly.

If you feel they're the 'price matching' type, don't give a written quote. I often write my price down on the back of a card, with not too many details but I record the quote carefully on my quote sheet. If they decide to go ahead I do a detailed contract. If I feel they're fishing, I give them a verbal and if they ask for a written I go with "oh we don't do written quotes. We do full contracts before work commences if you'd like to go ahead and we don't ask for a deposit. You wouldn't believe it, but some people call me out just to get a written quote so the next guy can undercut it! (that often shuts them up)." If its totally obvious that they are going to go with the cheapest price (not me) then I just lay it out like; "There are plenty of guys out there undercutting each other and doing bad work. I don't compete with them, so if you're looking for the cheapest price it's not me. If you need a quote though, I'll write any number you like on my card. Those other guys don't know how to quote, they just beat any written price. Even if I write $1, they'll do it for .80c". Then I write down a ridiculous number, like $150 and free stump grinding for a $1000 removal. Why make it easy for the hacks? They've got to learn ;-)

Shaun
 

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