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trickytune

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Had 4 trees fall down. 3 we have cut up now. The 4th one is over the neighbours fence almost over their chicken house. I have a pole saw and ms171 plus ladder. Can possibly get a vehicle to pull from over another fence. The 171 did pretty well with it's 14" bar on that tree. Could only just cut it from both sides.
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Had 4 trees fall down. 3 we have cut up now. The 4th one is over the neighbours fence almost over their chicken house. I have a pole saw and ms171 plus ladder. Can possibly get a vehicle to pull from over another fence. The 171 did pretty well with it's 14" bar on that tree. Could only just cut it from both sides.
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The pic makes this tree look small. Have U tried using the vehicle to pull the tree back to its upright positition ? By doing that, U may be able to fell it with the aid of a guide rope to a safe open area.
 
That tree is small (ish). The cut up one was a workout! Cannot get vehicle round the house to pull it back up. Can go over fence to the left with wire rope.
 
Well; it looks from here it is hung in another tree. Trimming it could create more of a problem. What U described from the left would be a gamble to give it a sharp hard jerk to pop it off the tree, and into the yard w/o damage to anything, but that will have to be a near perfect act.
 
Sideways with the wire rope as you noted.

Another option if you think the small branches at the top will damage the chicken coop, use a 3/8" or 10 mm dia nylon (NOT Dacron) stretchy rope with slack and give the truck a run first, the stretch will help snap the tree farther to the left.
 
It's really interesting that the tree fell uphill like that. Can you pull from below/left in the photo? How much is holding the top of the tree? Can we get a better photo of that?

DO NOT cut with the chainsaw while up on a ladder, especially on one hung up like that. Make sure you have insurance in case you hit the chicken coop and call a pro if you have any doubts about doing this.
 
It's really interesting that the tree fell uphill like that. Can you pull from below/left in the photo? How much is holding the top of the tree? Can we get a better photo of that?

DO NOT cut with the chainsaw while up on a ladder, especially on one hung up like that. Make sure you have insurance in case you hit the chicken coop and call a pro if you have any doubts about doing this.

Cut the other tree down,,
Jeff,,,,:dancing:
 
Always hard to tell from the photos, but:

1. Stay off the ladder.

2. Buy, rent, or borrow a pole saw and cut off the branches of the leaner tree which extend past the hang up tree. This will probably clear the chicken coop and fence, THEN;

3. Yank, jerk, or push it (e.g. front loader) as discussed, OR;

4. Make a series of vertical up-cuts, starting near the base,

Philbert
 
QLD, Australia has had huge rainfall and winds in last 4 or 5 days hence windblown trees.

Not an arborist.

tt advises hang up round 15-20ft above ground, hopefully closer to 15' for extended polesaw reach, but haven't seen it personally. For scale, the treated pine posts in the fence will be 4ft high, maybe a few inches under.

The tree looks hung up with one limb round 4" dia, without getting under the hung up tree I'd try to cut the 4" limb off a little at a time with the pole saw (hopefully tt has a full extension one like a Stihl 101 or similiar) until it was just long enough to hold it against the other tree, but come out of the other tree quickly/easily when dragged by a 4x4.

Pulling from outside the back fence will pull the fallen tree against the standing one, that won't be the way to do it, maybe redirect cable/rope with a ground level pulley on another tree in the yard.

If tt needs a ladder with pole saw to reach the 100mm limb then don't lean it on anything, use a step ladder and take little bites at a time. Chainsaws and ladders are a deadly mix and to be avoided, at least with his polesaw tt will be some feet from the action.

Nothing substitutes for on-site viewing and above is just from what can be gained from pics and short PM's with OP.

Be safe tt.
 
Devil's Advocate solutions: turn problem upside down and view:
Understand problem more, checksum previous assumptions, perhaps use counter intuitive path.
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Perhaps 1 shot is possible, not nickel and dime out.
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Is it possible to throw line thru high/stiff part of tree, anchor 1 end behind pic taker, other end to truck,tractor, 5x1, whatever service behind pic taker , set taut(line must slide freely), remove some high and side dirt, and pull tree back into hole and then further to fall on picture taker? Or choke sling /pulley lower leverage but stiffer on stalk. Might tie stump back under tree to anchor to keep root ball from moving away. Might get some hang from opposite roots in this ball joint/joystick movemeant. But with any luck, should at least get to original position, some past and tight enough pulls to stabilize for me to take 2nd shot, perhaps not osha.
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Taking a face for a fall, gives open path, clear root ball so won't hang in hole as same mechanic; tighter V in pull line gives closer to 2x1, wider V gives more stable/side to side controlled pull.
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If fall zone not clear, have reversed V already reeved for 4 anchorable guy wires, should be a direction to pull from to put her down; perhaps only firing a saw up later; perhaps after dragging whole to target pile/loader/burnsite.
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Really just need it to pull or roll to the side (LOOKS THAT WAY AT LEAST) not go full bull for stand up , salute, fall on nose.
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Grip carabiner like chess piece, not power saw to vanquish when making plan(orrrrrrrrr somethin'like that!).
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I'm back at work now for 4 weeks. I hope they leave it for me. Sister said they may pay someone to sort it out. I kinda have a plan coming together now.
 
attach a rope to the top of the tree and run it through a natural crotch on one of the trees to the left and tie it off.
cut it at the stump, wiggle it out and lower it down...
 
Start at the butt. Undercut the stump off. Then work your way up the tree, taking 4' section, underdutting each time. As you work up the tree, it will become more vertical. When it gets small enough you can pull it over.

This. And tie the crown off to a good crotch in the other tree if you can. Remove excess weight from the crown (that will easily fall...to make the tree lighter and more manageable) and then start under-cutting the trunk. Pay attention to your cuts as you're doing them to make sure you don't pinch your bar. Then lower the last section with the rope you used to tie off with.

It looks pretty straight forward. Should go pretty easy. Good luck.
 
If you undercut that tree at the trunk you will end up with a pinched bar when the stump decides to set back in the hole without the weight of the top holding it over. Cut some notches to avoid a pinched bar or bring an extra saw to cut the first one loose. Preferably do both.
 
Well thanks for the ideas guys. I fly home tomorrow and my sister has had someone come and cut it down while I am away. Guess she didn't trust me lol. Or maybe knows I don't get much play time. I just wanted to do it as I love being on the end of a chainsaw.
 
Start at the butt. Undercut the stump off. Then work your way up the tree, taking 4' section, underdutting each time. As you work up the tree, it will become more vertical. When it gets small enough you can pull it over.

I seen it done on spruce in czech woods, but isn't there a chance for the leaning tree to go down after you cut few sections from the bottom?
 
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