Ignition coil identification, Pic's

[Modifiedmark]

Lee, some of the early Poulan Micros were indeed point igns but the coils are easy to tell apart as the point coils are rounder and have a "T" connector on them to run a wire to the points as well as the ign switch.

I would say that the majority of the Micros were electronic though and all the 1800, 2000 and 2300 micro based saws should be electronic.

I gave the Poulan part# for these incase you run across any in the box. I also looked in a old Phelon guide that I have and found the Phelon # is 13600-00-S.

I did see alot of 13600-00 numbers with a different ending letter for different models. Like was mentioned alot of them were for a Homelite XL, Super 2 and such with the Phelon # 13600-00-Y.

I'm betting that most all of the 13600-00-? numbers all use the same module and only the lamintation mounting and maybe plug wire maybe different.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Well Lee, I got a chance to look and my hunch was right. You have a Poulan Micro/1800/2000/2300 coil on that Mac.
The Poulan part # is 530069202 KIT-IGNITION MODULE and it cost 37.98.

Lots and lots of used ones out there as well. IMHO Phelon always has the best igns as well.

You can now tell the guy to take the $75 and shove it. LOL

Here are a couple that I found out in the shop.

What would you suggest about getting the metal piece away from the coil part? I'm gonna try this with a Super XL but the one that came off it seems awfully tight. Reckon it would be good to use a little heat applied to the metal frame to soften up the glue holding it on? A friend at the local shop says they used to sell them separately, when the coil part went bad that was all you had to buy.

 

[barneyrb]

Gotcha. But since it's a PICS thread, I was just curious about the obvious physical difference in what was being presented as "the same". Not trying to be a wise-ass, just wondering...

The coil is the coil, the entire assembly is the assembly -- sometimes loosely referred to as the coil. That's what had me wondering.

Poge

Technically it should be called a core and coil assembly. Obviously the core is considered the steel laminates and the coil is called that because of the windings (inside the plastic construction) that coil around the leg of the core.

That coil you have pictured Mark, it appears to be one that could be off a 2175 or most any of the Poulan, Husky, or Jonsered clamshell saws.

 

[igpoe]

As to odd coils fitting other laminates and producing good spark, I once had a Mall 7 running on a coil from a small Homelite. I managed to get spark in a Poulan A900 and fit inside a very small space by putting the coil from a small Solo onto the Poulan laminate. So there's a gob of possibilities out there. Hooray for us!
Igpoe

 

[Modifiedmark]

Technically it should be called a core and coil assembly. Obviously the core is considered the steel laminates and the coil is called that because of the windings (inside the plastic construction) that coil around the leg of the core.

That coil you have pictured Mark, it appears to be one that could be off a 2175 or most any of the Poulan, Husky, or Jonsered clamshell saws.

Randy, I do believe your right about the clamshell Poulans maybe having a module about like these Micro ones. In fact I looked for one but I couldnt find one and I dont have much of those style here anyway.

 

[leeha]

Well, I just pulled apart 2 saws. A poulan XXV micro countervibe
and a Craftsman 2.0 and both have the same coil but very different
than the one i need. So the search continues.




Lee

 

[leeha]

I just looked at ebay. There seems to be 2 different coils
sharing the same part number. Item # 110794157980
looks like whats in the poulan and craftsman i pulled apart.

I also notice the coil i need appears to have 2 spade terminals.
Mine has one but might have had two as the coil is turned to fit
my application. Would that terminal be a ground.


Lee

 

[Modifiedmark]

Well, I just pulled apart 2 saws. A poulan XXV micro countervibe
and a Craftsman 2.0 and both have the same coil but very different
than the one i need. So the search continues.




Lee

Just your luck to find point igns?

 

[leeha]

Just your luck to find point igns?

Ya, I know Mark. Thats why i don't play the lottery. :frown:




Lee

 

[Jacob J.]

I just looked at ebay. There seems to be 2 different coils
sharing the same part number. Item # 110794157980
looks like whats in the poulan and craftsman i pulled apart.

I also notice the coil i need appears to have 2 spade terminals.
Mine has one but might have had two as the coil is turned to fit
my application. Would that terminal be a ground.


Lee

The one in the auction number is a later version of the same coil I think with the starting/idle timing circuit.
You're right, I don't think those will work in this application. I think the one you want is the one pictured here:

eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices

 

[leeha]

I was looking at that one too Jacob.
I'm going to search for some used ones before
i go and spend big money on new ones.




Lee

 

[Modifiedmark]

The one in the auction number is a later version of the same coil I think with the starting/idle timing circuit.
You're right, I don't think those will work in this application. I think the one you want is the one pictured here:

eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices

JJ, I found I had one like the one Lee showed the auction # for, and wasnt aware of the part # for that one. I cannot be for certain but I think that style is actually the earlier version. I know that the 3400-4000 had that style and I think it was the later ones that had the module like the ones that I posted pictures of.

You are correct that the one in the auction that you listed is the one like the ones I posted.

 

[Modifiedmark]

I was looking at that one too Jacob.
I'm going to search for some used ones before
i go and spend big money on new ones.




Lee

For what there pricing the ebay auction ones at, you could get them direct from Poulan for less.

 

[leeha]

For what there pricing the ebay auction ones at, you could get them direct from Poulan for less.

Where can i buy direct. Would you have a web site
or phone number.



Lee

 

[Modifiedmark]

Where can i buy direct. Would you have a web site
or phone number.



Lee

Check your email in a couple minutes.

 

[Jacob J.]

JJ, I found I had one like the one Lee showed the auction # for, and wasnt aware of the part # for that one. I cannot be for certain but I think that style is actually the earlier version. I know that the 3400-4000 had that style and I think it was the later ones that had the module like the ones that I posted pictures of.

You are correct that the one in the auction that you listed is the one like the ones I posted.

Ok, I gotcha. So the auction number Lee posted would be the earlier coil for the saws that used points. Makes sense.

Yeah I can't see paying big bucks on e-bay for new ones when there's millions of these saws out there for parts.
The guy that told Lee he could convert them for $75 must be sitting on a pile of old Poulans.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Ok, I gotcha. So the auction number Lee posted would be the earlier coil for the saws that used points. Makes sense.

Yeah I can't see paying big bucks on e-bay for new ones when there's millions of these saws out there for parts.
The guy that told Lee he could convert them for $75 must be sitting on a pile of old Poulans.

No, the one he posted is a electronic module, but I "think" that it was a earler version. Like I said, I think the plastic Poulans like the Wildthing, 2150 etc use the same type module as well and we know there are lots of those homeowner abused parts saws laying all over the place. Probably the only reason they have a different part # is for a different mount and plug wire configuration. The plug wire is easy to shorten as you already know.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Answered my own question

I asked the question earlier in this thread about how to disconnect the coil part of the module from the metal frame, I think someone called it a core. I have some pics of how it's done, in case I wasn't the only one who didn't know. Beside the frame is a small flat piece next to the module, which is a spring which holds the module still on the frame. Unfold one side of the spring and pull it out from the other side and the module comes right out! No heat or anything required.
Sorry I duplicated the last pic..

 

[Eccentric]

Great info and detective work gentlemen. I vote this as the #1 thread of 2012 so far!

 

[barneyrb]

I asked the question earlier in this thread about how to disconnect the coil part of the module from the metal frame, I think someone called it a core. I have some pics of how it's done, in case I wasn't the only one who didn't know. Beside the frame is a small flat piece next to the module, which is a spring which holds the module still on the frame. Unfold one side of the spring and pull it out from the other side and the module comes right out! No heat or anything required.
Sorry I duplicated the last pic..

Some of the new ones are glued on which NEVER EVER use heat on a coil. If possible do not use a hammer to seperate either, always use steady pressure like a small press.