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http://www.statesman.com/opinion/content/editorial/stories/05/04/0504letters_edit.html
Glad this guy spoke out. Good article.
Glad this guy spoke out. Good article.
Interesting letter to editor
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Rftreeman
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OMG!!!! That just sickens me.................
that people keep worrying about what others do.........
that people keep worrying about what others do.........
HS Climber
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Is that guy doing something wrong? JK
treemandan
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I suppose he is. You know I just realized that when I see other climbers in trees dressed like that they look, uhm, sublime? Painful? Something looks outta place. He looks like he is on vacation, he doesn't look serious cause if he was he would at least cover his head.
I am not just saying that either. Its like a car without seats and last time I rode in one of those people pointed and stared. Its like a man in drag and last time I did that was hollaween ( Ok, I liked it) but its like, well, I actually am going to do a job now, its been raining so long I hope I remeber how.
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Well, I generally am not worried what people do, but if it is dangerous, I think we should be worried. Yes, the guy could get injured, BUT there are other things that could happen if he does. I realize that any one of us can get injured on the job with a blink of an eye. That is obvious. I think most homeowners will think everything looks dangerous and don't really know how to differentiate between the two. If this guy is doing this job this dangerously, then he probably doesn't have the proper insurance either. That H/O isn't protected if he is hurt. It costs all of us more money on our insurance if he gets hurt too. They will see incidents in the region go up (even though he won't get a payout with no insurance). I am surprised that you don't care enough about your profession to not want others to do the job correctly. People start to generalize trades if they have bad experiences. It makes it tougher for everyone when somebody screws it up for the rest of us. Just my opinion.
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I respect your opinion but if my competition look like idiots that just makes me look even that much better when I do it right.........as for insurance, wouldn't work with out it and H/O, most of them wouldn't know right from wrong in this business if people like us didn't tell them but it's not my business what anyone else does in life, if someone wants to do the wrong thing that's up to them that's just my opinion
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They have no idea if they are doing it right. I actually do training for other contractors (in a different industry) on a regular basis.. It has helped bring up the prices in my area considerably. I am not scared to compete. I don't need another guy looking like an idiot to get a job either. I also am thinking about the tree in general. It's like if you are a vet and I take the dog in for a teeth clean and he puts him to sleep instead. That is kinda pisses me off because I like dogs. I don't want a dang thing to happen to a perfectly good dog. Same goes with trees. I don't want a hatchet job done on any tree. That is where we differ. You use it as a selling point.
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I don't use a hatchet, I use saws.
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figure of speech.
At any rate it's a proven fact whether you agree with it or not. Competitors bad jobs will not make it easier for you to sell. It will make the customer more hesitent to believe you. Their neighbor who got the bad job probably got a similar promise that you are giving the new customer. Who wants to see bad jobs done so they can get more jobs? That is ignorant.
At any rate it's a proven fact whether you agree with it or not. Competitors bad jobs will not make it easier for you to sell. It will make the customer more hesitent to believe you. Their neighbor who got the bad job probably got a similar promise that you are giving the new customer. Who wants to see bad jobs done so they can get more jobs? That is ignorant.
Rftreeman
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well duh...........
Rftreeman
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it's obvious.......
Darin, you may want to bang your head against a different wall.
RF says he wants to be an arborist when he grows up, but like Peter Pan he does not want to grow up. Catch-22.
Anyone who gets laid off by Davey, geez, that's like a chef being laid off by McDonalds.
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RF says he wants to be an arborist when he grows up, but like Peter Pan he does not want to grow up. Catch-22.
Anyone who gets laid off by Davey, geez, that's like a chef being laid off by McDonalds.
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Hrrm, obvious to the person who wrote it (and maybe some others that know you better). Don't you love how you can read internet emotion so well? Bro, you have to realize this is a computer and I don't know you. I will take things as face value unless I know you are joking or know you better. If I heard you, I could tell. This is a computer. You can't tell. And no, it isn't obvious. When it is obvious something like this is attached also. 
That is pretty obvious.
That is pretty obvious.
Rftreeman
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why don't you two go have dinner and talk about your love for trees.Hrrm, obvious to the person who wrote it (and maybe some others that know you better). Don't you love how you can read internet emotion so well? Bro, you have to realize this is a computer and I don't know you. I will take things as face value unless I know you are joking or know you better. If I heard you, I could tell. This is a computer. You can't tell. And no, it isn't obvious. When it is obvious something like this is attached also.
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Why is anyone in any business???
Rftreeman
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it sure isn't because of my love for trees...
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I get that, but like I said, you should care about what you do. Like I also said, it is similar to baby sitting. So if a day care was beating kids and you were also in day care. Would you like it because you would get more business since you would treat them better? That is similar to what is happening here. You could care about somebody butchering a tree plus endangering themselves and actually perfer it so you can get more work. Honestly it's pretty strange and fairly way off from a logical way of thinking. Believe me, I am not a "treehugger" but I am all about doing the right thing. What you are advocating is not right. If you are that good you wouldn't have to worry about the other guy screwing up. You would get your own work fair and square. How about a little pride in your field of expertise, huh? It's a big deal to not care about others safety either. I think every sponsor on here would tell you other than moving product, that safety of others is on their mind constantly. That is why most are pushing safety gear on here. Wouldn't you agree? I don't think it is wrong in the least to butt in and speak out when something like this article is posted and say that it's wrong. It costs everyone money when you don't. Good luck in your business.
