Iowa Fall 2012 GTG

[andydodgegeek]

So are you guys doing the rebuild a 290/390 clamshell stihl with the short block donated from Baileys? Did he mention to you guys that he wanted to see how fast you could replace it? As you may know we are also holding a GTG at my house in Minnesota on Sept.22, I also was in contact with Grande Dog at Baileys and he is sending me a short block for the clamshell Stihl. I got a fella that says he is willing to donate a 290 for the cause. Not sure if it will all work out but maybe we could have chainsaw building races. Just throwing it out there, what do you think? We build one at my GTG you do one at yours and see what becomes of it. I was already mentioning on our thread about donating the finished saw to the Innerfaith caregivers (a local charity we help cut and split wood for heating veterans and elderly folks homes.)

 

[nstueve]

Yeah Granddog (greg) wants to make it a promo for the new ms390 top ends. It also helps local charity. I plan to do a timed build down here at our GTG... Greg wants us to compete between GTG's to see who can swap a clam shell the fastest. Greg said each group will get ONE set of hand tools to do the rebuild with and the P&C. The hand tool kit is meant to keep a level playing field.

We need to develop rules... Namely where the rebuild starts and ends and what the rebuild has to include... IE replace fuel lines and air filter? Do you need a complete saw together and runing before the clock stops or just together? Does the bar have to be installed with the clutch cover securely attached? I know we all hate rules but firm rules will keep it fair and fun for all...

 

[Hedgerow]

Yeah Granddog (greg) wants to make it a promo for the new ms390 top ends. It also helps local charity. I plan to do a timed build down here at our GTG... Greg wants us to compete between GTG's to see who can swap a clam shell the fastest. Greg said each group will get ONE set of hand tools to do the rebuild with and the P&C. The hand tool kit is meant to keep a level playing field.

We need to develop rules... Namely where the rebuild starts and ends and what the rebuild has to include... IE replace fuel lines and air filter? Do you need a complete saw together and runing before the clock stops or just together? Does the bar have to be installed with the clutch cover securely attached? I know we all hate rules but firm rules will keep it fair and fun for all...

That beeeotchh has gotta be running before the clock stops!!!!

 

[mweba]

And sucking clammy sealant? Smurfs be damned

 

[Hedgerow]

And sucking clammy sealant? Smurfs be damned

That's why I use ultra grey...
Bring it on!!!:msp_sneaky:

 

[tree monkey]

That's why I use ultra grey...
Bring it on!!!:msp_sneaky:

are you saying you suck ultra gray clammy sealent? eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

 

[Hedgerow]

are you saying you suck ultra gray clammy sealent? eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

I put it on my mashed taters...
Bwahahahaha!!!!

 

[tree monkey]

I put it on my mashed taters...
Bwahahahaha!!!!

eeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

i'll have to try it:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[struggle]

Yeah Granddog (greg) wants to make it a promo for the new ms390 top ends. It also helps local charity. I plan to do a timed build down here at our GTG... Greg wants us to compete between GTG's to see who can swap a clam shell the fastest. Greg said each group will get ONE set of hand tools to do the rebuild with and the P&C. The hand tool kit is meant to keep a level playing field.

We need to develop rules... Namely where the rebuild starts and ends and what the rebuild has to include... IE replace fuel lines and air filter? Do you need a complete saw together and runing before the clock stops or just together? Does the bar have to be installed with the clutch cover securely attached? I know we all hate rules but firm rules will keep it fair and fun for all...

Hey I got the 039 NWP top end at the last GTG but have yet to put it on my 029 that still runs fine. I could bring it provided I can get there.

I have not taken one of these saws that far apart yet so I'm interested to see how it would work on this model.

If I should need to get any extra tid bits like seals etc I will get that lined up now.

 

[srcarr52]

I think the kit from Baileys is a complete long block and thus has the crank and clam shell already assembled. I think you just have to drop into the plastic tank, connected a few small tidbits and put the covers back on.

 

[nstueve]

I'll buy a new B&C for it. How about the Carlton Speed Tip combo from Baileys?item=CDS+20+SS50&catID https://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?]=

VERY KIND of you Shaun!!!! THANKS!
Also how much do you think the raffel tickets should cost for the ms390 raffel???? Anyone have thoughts?
Lastly does anyone happen to have a good 029-390 clutch drum? I have 3 but they are all spur type and 80% used up... Wanting the saw to be as nice as possible!

And sucking clammy sealant? Smurfs be damned

That's why I use ultra grey...
Bring it on!!!:msp_sneaky:

I think the kit from Baileys is a complete long block and thus has the crank and clam shell already assembled. I think you just have to drop into the plastic tank, connected a few small tidbits and put the covers back on.

Yes that is correct. The bottom of the short blocks have been drilled for a second set of screws to hold the assembly all together so no sealant is required for the swap. We do have to remove the covers, flywheel, clutch, oil pump, and rear bar stud to get the old assembly out. Then reassemble and hook up the gas and covers.

Hey I got the 039 NWP top end at the last GTG but have yet to put it on my 029 that still runs fine. I could bring it provided I can get there.
I have not taken one of these saws that far apart yet so I'm interested to see how it would work on this model.
If I should need to get any extra tid bits like seals etc I will get that lined up now.

Go to www.northwoodsaw.com and get a set of crank seals and fuel/impulse lines (optional) if you want to. I'll help disassemble and reassemble the night before or the day of the GTG. Not hard as I've done a couple dozen of these now and can whip a clean saw apart and back together in a couple hours. Thing is that we have to split your clam shell since it's a top end and not a short block. If we do it the night before and we get it re-sealed you can run it the day of the gtg!

 

[Homelite410]

Oh Boy this is gonna be fun!! :msp_biggrin:

 

[Hedgerow]

Oh Boy this is gonna be fun!! :msp_biggrin:

No good clamshell can go back together without this tool...
Just sayin'...

Use as much or as little as you like...
Sorta like mustard...
:sweet_kiss:

 

[nstueve]

Are you saying we need to port the ms390 short block that Bailey's is sending us? :msp_confused:

I suppose we see if someone with a lathe wants to make/donate labor towards a pop-up and port the short block for us............

 

[Hedgerow]

Are you saying we need to port the ms390 short block that Bailey's is sending us? :msp_confused:

I suppose we see if someone with a lathe wants to make/donate labor towards a pop-up and port the short block for us............

No, I was referring to struggle's... He'll have the top off the motor unit...

 

[srcarr52]

Are you saying we need to port the ms390 short block that Bailey's is sending us? :msp_confused:

I suppose we see if someone with a lathe wants to make/donate labor towards a pop-up and port the short block for us............

I would do it but you have have to do a welded pop-up or line bore the crank bore of the cylinder. I suppose I could figure out someway how to hold that thing in the lathe to line bore it? I've seen a thread where someone did it on a mill.

 

[Hedgerow]

I would do it but you have have to do a welded pop-up or line bore the crank bore of the cylinder. I suppose I could figure out someway how to hold that thing in the lathe to line bore it? I've seen a thread where someone did it on a mill.

It's not worth it... But they respond well to just a good old port job... And some added C.Case volume...

 

[moody]

Is it October yet?:chainsawguy:

 

[nstueve]

It's not worth it... But they respond well to just a good old port job... And some added CC volume...

I was going to say... A good little port job is ok but a 036pro ports way better in the 60cc range...

I was thinking $10-$15 for the ms390 raffel tickets...

 

[struggle]

If I can get there the day before I will have everything set up. I will clean the saw up as well so as to not have to hassle with the cleaning.

I have already cleaned it once good but have used it since then:hmm3grin2orange:

If someone going to the GTG wants to port it a little I would be more than happy to send the cylinder to you now if we can have it the day before to get it put in