Is this a suicide climb?

[(WLL)]

ill bump this one up. just want to know how it went and what you used. from my chair the tree looks green and fairly small in a big open spot. every day i say im gona bring my camera and when i do it stays in the truck. i just want to add; if your skeert of that ya must be a :newbie: to removals. imo thats a cake climb. ill bet id be home before lunch lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mattfr12]

I dunno about that one buddy dont make a stupid mistake id just get whatever you needed to get out of the lines out of the way and bomb it.

 

[(WLL)]

"Trees that look bad often have a lot more strength than one would think."
As Mr Murphy wrote, so way too many of us think. My guess is that a good number of climbers make it as much a matter of confidence in themselves as in the structure of the tree. This attitude is what kills people regularly.
If a tree can't be cut with full allowances for it being WORSE than you think, one of these days you're going to guess wrong and we'll all get to read about it. There are so many ways to make a nasty job safer, including cranes, aerial lifts and creative rigging that it just doesn't make sense to decide that bravery and confidence can replace them all.
The issue is SAFETY and the creation of a CULTURE of SAFETY.

great post i agree 100% climbing is always my last option. i dont have a good way to look at this job from here to say for sure, but by the look of the tree in the pic, climbing is not out of the quiestion. again its hard to tell from a picture. YOUR MUCH BETTER OFF SAFE THAN SORRY!!!!

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

We own a Bucket & I do beleive that's about the only way I'd tackle that one. You never know how bad the underground structure is. Don't risk all for a couple more dollars. The Old Guys point of view according to the photos.

 

[Themadd1]

Rigging could cause some serious shock to the trunk.

If it is all chunking with little rigging I would say still not a good idea but can be done.

Sub a crane and your life will be easier or sub it to another company with the proper equipment. The best part of subbing is that you get your normal cut without putting yourself or the homeowner's property in danger.

Think about saving your neck not making more money. by the time you pay all of your overhead and your headache you will get just as much from the sub-fee.

 

[southsoundtree]

decaying oak

what about plunge cutting into the tree to see the soundness of the heartwood?

If you have to ask if its a suicide climb, that's probably telling you something.

Bucket Lifts can be so fast and easy that its well worth the cost, which should be built into the bid anyway. Even if the HO doesn't want to pay what you want to get out of the job, plus the whole rental, you can still make fair profit if you have to put up a bit of the cost of the lift. You can move so fast with the lift, especially compared to the speed of climbing on sketchy wood.

 

[Mikecutstrees]

suicide climb....

I read the posts.... many I agree with but many I surely don't. I can't see the tree first hand but think of it this way, what is your life worth to you and your family? What about getting hurt and not being able to work? From the pictures I agree that it looks like fill has been added and is killing the tree. The worst of the decay could be below the surface of the ground. I would not shock load this tree. If you had a bucket or lift I think the best bet would be to take small pieces and not unbalance the tree too much. Especially be careful not to leave weight toward hazards or your bucket/ lift. If the tree is in a protected area it could be well protected from wind and might be quite unsteady. Certainly be careful,smart, safe and get paid well for it.