Is this repairable or replace? pp295

[rms61moparman]

I can and would clean that P/C up and run it.
It will never be optimum but it will cut wood.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend you doing it.
Your saw is just burdened with too many problems.
Keep your eyes peeled for another engine that won't run because it needs fuel lines and a filter and swap it into your chassis.
For that matter, these saws are DIRT cheap on ebay as remanufactured units.

Just some food for thought!


Mike

 

[paulyb21]

You look like the Tasmanian devil; stop now before you are even dizzier. Wait; these saws are all over, you might have more than you care to before long. Its your money, you can say I fixed it and have an empty pocket, or you can say Next saw please, thank you very much. Remember, the junkyards are full of things that ran surprisingly well just a few days ago, but its still only parts now. Maybe really good parts, fondly remembered parts, parts from my first whatever, but still only parts.

Yes I agree, have the local dumps covered off, keeping the eyes peeled and my money in my pocket. Do some drives for the seniors around here and 1 guy says he has some old chainsaw stuff hanging about, and come take a look. Think I will go take a look...

 

[paulyb21]

yea that cylinder and piston is tosted i had one just like that and the the bolt that holds the handel in place took and broke and then i just took and drilled it out and i fixed it untill mine then i just took and replaced the whole saw with a poulan 4218avx but i wished i had my poulan 295 back it was a beast in the wood

Thought It might chew pretty good, hoping to find out one day!

I can and would clean that P/C up and run it.
It will never be optimum but it will cut wood.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend you doing it.
Your saw is just burdened with too many problems.
Keep your eyes peeled for another engine that won't run because it needs fuel lines and a filter and swap it into your chassis.
For that matter, these saws are DIRT cheap on ebay as remanufactured units.

Just some food for thought!


Mike

Peeled and digesting, gonna clean it up anyways, get some practice, just in case
Paul

 

[bullittman281]

Hello,
Save that one for parts and find another one. Your getting close to the $100 mark for parts. I wanna say that a piston and jug is ~$80. I'm gonna side with others on here and recommend you look at that flywheel really good, it LOOKS toast. Also, based on experience, you will need new seals to put it back together. Been there, done that.

I've got a couple of them and overall they're not bad. One I rebuilt some time back and another one I rescued from a strait gassing. The chrome is pealing so its only a matter of time until its dead but for now it runs. Look around for some more junkers and you'll eventually get enough parts to make a good one. Good luck.

Bullittman

 

[SawTroll]

I have no real opinion on the details here, but wouldn't waste my time on a saw model like that!

 

[paulyb21]

survey says let it be

Ok guys going to put this one on hold, gain some experience, not throw any $ into it. Will recheck everything on it closely before trying to restart it again, if I stumble on some paets to make one good saw....

While out today stumbled across a poulan 3400 counter vibe, will post in the poulan thread for advice.

 

[bullittman281]

You ever run one troll? Stock they suck but with a MM it does perty good. I ran one (the same one) for many years with out a hitch. I think for the money you wont find a better junk saw. Light with enough power to do something, and if it gets destroyed you didn't actually loose anything. Try just walking away from an XP.

Bullittman

 

[rms61moparman]

You ever run one troll? Stock they suck but with a MM it does perty good. I ran one (the same one) for many years with out a hitch. I think for the money you wont find a better junk saw. Light with enough power to do something, and if it gets destroyed you didn't actually loose anything. Try just walking away from an XP.

Bullittman

That is a concept that many here cannot grasp!
Each and every saw has a certain niche.
These companies do not just go to the expense of R&D, design and build a saw without knowing that there is a market for it.

Many people do not need more saw than a Wildthing. (a saw I have gained a LOT of respect for during the "Wildthing Racing")
Some need just a bit more but not one nearly as healthy as a MS-290, and the 295 fills their need
Others need a pro saw and would be foolish to buy anything less.

I see people here tossing advice ad-nauseum about how dumb it is to buy a cheap saw, yet they never seem to stop and think about how dumb it is to tie up $750.00 in a tool that you only use once a year (maybe even less) to cut a few 2" branches.


Mike

 

[Modifiedmark]

That is a concept that many here cannot grasp!
Each and every saw has a certain niche.
These companies do not just go to the expense of R&D, design and build a saw without knowing that there is a market for it.

Many people do not need more saw than a Wildthing. (a saw I have gained a LOT of respect for during the "Wildthing Racing")
Some need just a bit more but not one nearly as healthy as a MS-290, and the 295 fills their need
Others need a pro saw and would be foolish to buy anything less.

I see people here tossing advice ad-nauseum about how dumb it is to buy a cheap saw, yet they never seem to stop and think about how dumb it is to tie up $750.00 in a tool that you only use once a year (maybe even less) to cut a few 2" branches.


Mike

You sir are correct! Again I might add.

My buddy has a PP295 that I muffler modded, tuned and put a 16" bar on with a good chain.

It fits him perfectly, has been dead reliable and cuts well.

 

[8433jeff]

That is a concept that many here cannot grasp!
Each and every saw has a certain niche.
These companies do not just go to the expense of R&D, design and build a saw without knowing that there is a market for it.

Many people do not need more saw than a Wildthing. (a saw I have gained a LOT of respect for during the "Wildthing Racing")
Some need just a bit more but not one nearly as healthy as a MS-290, and the 295 fills their need
Others need a pro saw and would be foolish to buy anything less.

I see people here tossing advice ad-nauseum about how dumb it is to buy a cheap saw, yet they never seem to stop and think about how dumb it is to tie up $750.00 in a tool that you only use once a year (maybe even less) to cut a few 2" branches.


Mike

Testify, my brother! I too have have seen the light when it comes to throwaways, and it behooves one to know thats what he owns. These saws may not last forever even with reasonable, if not excellent care. Though backed even with a reasonable if not downright good warranty, they may die a whimpering death, begging for dollars to thrown at them in their downward spiral. But a capable tool in the right situation can be a Godsend, and it might be a start to a happy lifestyle or even a career. Now realize, fellow readers, we have seen some hellish videos with these tools and this brand in particular; but stupidity comes in many colors and disguises, and buying a $500.00 (or more or even somewhat less) saw that will sit until it needs major repairs also falls under that broad description, and it does no one any good; not the owner, not the brand, not the salesman, not the repairman, nor the environment. Not even the trolls... or the mules, but thank the big Sawyer in the sky we have yet to hear from him and his mind.

 

[paulyb21]

how to change crank bearings: need some assistance

Maybe it's the fever clouding my thoughts, maybe I'm fooling myself that this will work out, but I needed to do something today and whats another $25 in the big scheme of things (to bring the grand total investment to <$60(hopefully)...I'm having fun...and learning stuff

I can and would clean that P/C up and run it.
It will never be optimum but it will cut wood.

That being said, ...
Mike

Hi Mike, Well here is the cleaned up piston, looks much better. Didn't want to remove too much material, it's supposed to act as a slide valve someone's post said; hope this will still do the trick Here is the carb side

And the exhaust side ( it was pretty good to start with ...

ps still working on the cylinder, coming along nicely, but another little hurdle needs to be cleared

:agree2:

Probably not too hard to find another flywheel,,, or coil,,, or cylinder. All 3 makes it a pretty tough one to swallow. If you end up splitting the engine to change the cylinder, you may find bad news in the crank seal department also. How far are you into it already?

Also, based on experience, you will need new seals to put it back together. Been there, done that.

I've got a couple of them and overall they're not bad. One I rebuilt some time back and another one I rescued from a strait gassing. The chrome is pealing so its only a matter of time until its dead but for now it runs. Look around for some more junkers and you'll eventually get enough parts to make a good one. Good luck.

Bullittman

Hi guys, yes the flywheel side bearing is bad (rough, grindy when turned) Once i pop off the flywheel in should just slide off, correct? So How do I remove the bearing on the clutch side? ( it seems to feel good but I guess I should replace both if I'm in this far?)(trying to be minimalistic on the cost but this seems like good practice.) The problem is these threads (oil pump??) are in the way. There must be a way to change these...they have a part number 530056363? for a type 3 engine...so...you have to be able to change them?

I could use some insight please. searched and searched thought there would be a thread somewhere ( have my beg for manuals posted, hopefully waiting)

Thanks again to all for their help
Paul

EDIT finally found the info here (you guys had to have done it sometime)http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?p=2379869&highlight=oil+pump+gear#post2379869
is this what I need to do or buy?

EDIT2 Looks like the part Worm pump Number: 530029833 is what I want off, can it be reused or do i order a new one?

can you heat or cool it to get it off or will it slide rightoff if I reef on the bearing?

 

[lawnmowertech37]

I just blew the pic of your flywheel up 300%. Please inspect it closely before using it. Those REALLY look like cracks to me!

same here brad those are not factory marks those are hair line cracks from something that was binding on the flywheel


paulyb21
if you need parts for that poulan go thru someone that you know will treat you right that ereplacement company i heard from members on this site they had problems with them i am a poulan parts source i do not charge as higher prices as most online do ask modified mark he knows my prices are lower than msrp

to give you a example on the part # 56363 msrp is $ 8.90 ereplacement price is $ 9.79 my price would be $ 7.50 do you see what im trying to say here that ereplacement company is over charging the general public

The oil pump worm there price is $ 2.84 msrp is $ 2.58 my price is $ 2.17
so you see what i say about before jumping to the first place online do some checking to see who has the better service and prices

this may be the first time you heard of me online been online store since 2006 way before i came to arboristsite have some members on this site that were my customers way before being on here but my name is calvin been in the ope business since age 19 went a full year of college learning this trade and took it up thru the mail thru foley belsaw institute made a 100 % on the test

I am not a huge company like most are im a single operation but yet i get very happy people who say im the best they found online its called taking care of people and having a heart of compassion upon people that makes me who i am

i know im bragging but sometimes bragging is good to do

helps get the word out

dont mind those on this site that stick to one brand saw Stihls are not the best i seen poulans outdo stihl i seen homelites outdo stihl so dont let them folks get to you

sorry for being long winded

 

[rms61moparman]

Your pic's didn't come through Pauly!


Mike

 

[paulyb21]

Replies

Thanks Calvin if I can't source one locally (up here in the great white north) I'll be in touch (still could not find it on your site with that part number?) Saw lots of other goodies though....

Mike can you see them now? They show up fine at my end ok. Lots of little buttons to push to attach them, maybe I pushed the wrong one?
Paul

 

[rms61moparman]

No Sir!

Just little red Xs in boxes.


Mike

 

[paulyb21]

pics hopefully

Hows this?

Paul


edit had wrong description

 

[rms61moparman]

That came through!

Have you got a buffer?
A light buffing and that side will be alright.
Is that the good side or the bad side???


Mike

 

[paulyb21]

That was the bad side No buffer, but will do the "shoeshine method" if you think it needs to be smoother (can't find the poster to give him credit)

Here is the better side exhaust side

and the pic of the clutch side bearing worm gear

Paul

 

[rms61moparman]

You will probably be ok the way it is, I just like to make sure there is NOTHING resembling sharp anywhere to start any problems.

The exhaust side will be as good as a new piston.

How is the cylinder???


Mike

 

[lawnmowertech37]

Thanks Calvin if I can't source one locally (up here in the great white north) I'll be in touch (still could not find it on your site with that part number?) Saw lots of other goodies though....

Mike can you see them now? They show up fine at my end ok. Lots of little buttons to push to attach them, maybe I pushed the wrong one?
Paul

I bet you get tons of snow every winter there ?

You know i wish i can trade places with someone in snow country let them come live in non snow country for awhile and me live in snow country for awhile


If you know any people up that way that loves to make there own lumber let me know i have access to a device that makes anyone with a chainsaw have a lumber mill even in the middle of no where they can have a lumber mill set up

here take a peak let me know what you think the sub catalog is not completed yet still have 14 products to put in there

http://www.cmsmallengines.net/cheap...-parts-en/chainsaw-mills-and-attachments.html

my manufacture i sell for is based in the usa and canada there main office is in canada so that means canada people can order from me and save on shipping

I dont have them part #s on the site see most sites have parts lookup on there sites which ari network charges them a fortune to have that database set up well im smart i dont pay them anything i do all my product listings manually so if a part is not showing i need to know so i can add it to the system


If you check the site again you will notice those two items been added to the database