It takes all kinds

[ropensaddle]

My cracker azz is gettin tired lmfao

 

[flushcut]

Oh, I know that Indians can be a pain in the a$$. I ran a bib one time for a family and was asked if I could come back at a a later date when her sister got back from India. We had talked about some shrubs that needed a good hair cut and a locust that needed some dead wooding so I gave her a price but I kept the estimate. When I came back the job now included two more ashes and two hawthorns and she wanted the same price so I walked. As I was walking away she was saying you have my number call me. I never did

 

[tree md]

Oh, I know that Indians can be a pain in the a$$. I ran a bib one time for a family and was asked if I could come back at a a later date when her sister got back from India. We had talked about some shrubs that needed a good hair cut and a locust that needed some dead wooding so I gave her a price but I kept the estimate. When I came back the job now included two more ashes and two hawthorns and she wanted the same price so I walked. As I was walking away she was saying you have my number call me. I never did

I think a lot of it has to do with how people are accustomed to negotiating in their own culture. I had a similar type deal as you with an Asian lady. She was from somewhere in S. E. Asia, can't remember where. Man, you talk about a tough customer. LOL, I kept telling her I would take down two trees for the quoted price and she kept telling me "no, you do it this price". LOL, I finally got frustrated and walked off after a half hour of back and forth like that. I think she was trying to say that what she was offering was all the money she had to spend. I interpreted it as that was all the money she was willing to spend. In either case it was not enough for me to take on the job so I walked. She was all smiles though, even as I was walking away. I just smiled back at her and moved on. On second thought, she wasn't very different from the white prick I mentioned earlier. At least she had the balls to negotiate face to face with me and smiled while she was trying to screw me.

 

[ddhlakebound]

Some people and ethnicities haggle about the price of everyting. There easy to deal with, as long as you suspect the process before it begins.

When dealing w/ hagglers, just figure your price, and add 15%. Then when you grudgingly accept 10% off the price, they feel like they won and you get 5% for your deal making time.

 

[TimberMcPherson]

I work pretty hard to treat all clients equally, but some make it damn hard.

 

[mckeetree]

I think a lot of it has to do with how people are accustomed to negotiating in their own culture. I had a similar type deal as you with an Asian lady. She was from somewhere in S. E. Asia, can't remember where. Man, you talk about a tough customer. LOL, I kept telling her I would take down two trees for the quoted price and she kept telling me "no, you do it this price". LOL, I finally got frustrated and walked off after a half hour of back and forth like that. I think she was trying to say that what she was offering was all the money she had to spend. I interpreted it as that was all the money she was willing to spend. In either case it was not enough for me to take on the job so I walked. She was all smiles though, even as I was walking away. I just smiled back at her and moved on. On second thought, she wasn't very different from the white prick I mentioned earlier. At least she had the balls to negotiate face to face with me and smiled while she was trying to screw me.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes though you just have to go in the hole with those Asian ladies.

 

[fishercat]

let me guess.................

I think a lot of it has to do with how people are accustomed to negotiating in their own culture. I had a similar type deal as you with an Asian lady. She was from somewhere in S. E. Asia, can't remember where. Man, you talk about a tough customer. LOL, I kept telling her I would take down two trees for the quoted price and she kept telling me "no, you do it this price". LOL, I finally got frustrated and walked off after a half hour of back and forth like that. I think she was trying to say that what she was offering was all the money she had to spend. I interpreted it as that was all the money she was willing to spend. In either case it was not enough for me to take on the job so I walked. She was all smiles though, even as I was walking away. I just smiled back at her and moved on. On second thought, she wasn't very different from the white prick I mentioned earlier. At least she had the balls to negotiate face to face with me and smiled while she was trying to screw me.

Korean?

 

[fishercat]

how can you ?

I work pretty hard to treat all clients equally, but some make it damn hard.

they aren't all equal.everyone is different.life would be pretty boring if we were all the same or equal.

 

[Garden Of Eden]

they aren't all equal.everyone is different.life would be pretty boring if we were all the same or equal.

Rep to ya. Thanks for saying what I was thinking.

God bless,

Jeff

 

[outofmytree]

Some people and ethnicities haggle about the price of everyting. There easy to deal with, as long as you suspect the process before it begins.

This is normal here. The school I went to years ago held some sort of record with students from 65 different countries so I have seen em' all. I smile, nod and double my price when dealing with known haggling types. Then I plead poverty, bankruptcy, children starving and political marginalisation all the time they are trying to hammer me down. When they take $100 of the price I add $200 to the price. And I do it all with a smile. Eventually they either quit or end up at the price I was going to charge anyway.

try to renegotiate a price with me onetime after I had already completed the job

This is a different story. Anyone who tried this on would need a good lawyer and world class health insurance. A deal is a deal. I love tough negotiators because when they start to haggle you know they are serious about the work they are just figuring out the price. Anyone who tries to change the price AFTER the work is done is a theif.

 

[ropensaddle]

This is normal here. The school I went to years ago held some sort of record with students from 65 different countries so I have seen em' all. I smile, nod and double my price when dealing with known haggling types. Then I plead poverty, bankruptcy, children starving and political marginalisation all the time they are trying to hammer me down. When they take $100 of the price I add $200 to the price. And I do it all with a smile. Eventually they either quit or end up at the price I was going to charge anyway.

This is a different story. Anyone who tried this on would need a good lawyer and world class health insurance. A deal is a deal. I love tough negotiators because when they start to haggle you know they are serious about the work they are just figuring out the price. Anyone who tries to change the price AFTER the work is done is a theif.

Lol I do the increase method with hagglers as my prices have been adjusted to the depression already lmfao. I love to say 700 after bidding 6 and they ask if I can do for 5 but it seems to piss them off. I told one customer why does that make you angry,is it because you know you can't get my quality for the price you want

 

[treemandan]

Well, to tell the truth it wasn't meant to be used as a racial slur. It was more to convey who I was dealing with. Middle Easterners are shrewd hagglers. Anyone who has dealt with them knows that they love to barter. They come from an economic system where every price is negotiable on all goods, even groceries. The customer I was talking about was a shrewd negotiator. He even wanted to negotiate after the job had been done. It kind of pissed me off but he paid up and all was well. The taliban comment was meant as a joke. Nothing more nothing less.

I thought it was his name.
Last one I bid on I put 1700 on pulling out 3 tiny yew bushes... and walked away.

 

[treemandan]

Lol I do the increase method with hagglers as my prices have been adjusted to the depression already lmfao. I love to say 700 after bidding 6 and they ask if I can do for 5 but it seems to piss them off. I told one customer why does that make you angry,is it because you know you can't get my quality for the price you want

I like your strategey.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I gave a job to a competitor of mine (if you want to call him that) a while back where the HO wanted it $200.00 cheaper than I would do it for. The owner of this other "tree service" has made it public knowledge he just flat out doesn't like me but the guy is in Pizza Hut the week before crying and whining about no work and I was about ready to break out the violin so I figure what the hell and give him the lead. I don't know what happened but he calls me a couple days later cussing and screaming about me setting him up and something about me telling his wife he was a loser and I don't know what all. Now I don't refer anybody. It's not worth it.

I always tell people that the HO is looking for cut-rate work, and I cannot afford to do it. I'll do it a few times a year, I gave the same tree company a crazy old lady I could not work with. He took her on and did work every other year for 10 years till she passed on a few years ago.

 

[mckeetree]

I always tell people that the HO is looking for cut-rate work, and I cannot afford to do it.

I told the guy up front that this lady is cheap and she is a little bit crazy. She is a nickel dimer and a ball buster but if you don't have anything else and want to fool with her here is the number. So he knew going in.

 

[ropensaddle]

I told the guy up front that this lady is cheap and she is a little bit crazy. She is a nickel dimer and a ball buster but if you don't have anything else and want to fool with her here is the number. So he knew going in.

Dam some guys will hit anything:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Dam some guys will hit anything:hmm3grin2orange:

Freddy Berkelhammer has a funny story about an "old" hippy chick outside of Boulder, CO. Seems that she would render services for firewood, and had some sort of scale as to what you could "get" for any given volume of wood.

 

[tree md]

I think the same chick used to stay in the KOA just North of Atlanta... :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[mckeetree]

Dam some guys will hit anything:hmm3grin2orange:

I wouldn't have hit that and I'm not that particular.

 

[tree md]

I wouldn't have hit that and I'm not that particular.

Well, like you said, it takes all kinds... :hmm3grin2orange: