Jonsered project--920, or 2095?

[Chris J.]

I'm looking for some advice on which project to pursue. It'll be while before I get to it, so chasing down & waiting for parts shouldn't be an issue.

My project Jonsered 920 isn't a complete saw, but doesn't appear to be missing any major parts that I know of. The p&c look good, but I don't know if it has fire, & I do know that the chainbrake is shot.

I recently discovered the 2095 when I was cleaning my parts & project saws, didn't even realize that it was a 2095. Problem is the 2095 is pretty much a carcass--crank housing, crank, unsalvageable piston, flywheel, clutch & sprocket.

The 2095 will require more $$ & effort, but it's a newer saw.

The 920 probably won't require much $$, but it is an 'older' design.

Before y'all ask , I'll try to post some photos later today.

TIA for your thoughts.

 

[weimedog]

Can only offer opinion from my experience..I have a 820 two 920's and a 2094 all in good running condition along with a pile of 920 parts saws and some 2094 parts. My 2094 doesn't have a compression release and that alone makes it not a practical work saw.....my 820 is a wonderful day to day work saw. A 2095 with a compression release its an a$$ kicker of a saw! My 2094 is a wonderful GTG saw as its impressive cutting cookies...as fast as any stock saw I have seen to this point. Your 2095 may be the best of both worlds... All those weight around the same as well..just the 2094&5's are really strong saws. Parts are easier to come by aftermarket for the 2095. You can ebay Cylinder/piston kits for $150 bucks or so. Not so for the 820/920 series although pistons are still available. (I bought one of each of the three aftermarket pistons for comparison..Espian, Meteor, and Golf. All were acceptable for work saws.) If I was advising from a practical point of view... I would say build the 2095. But doing what I want cause I just like certain illogical things...the 920 would be my choice...which is a project I am actually starting today.(Taking 4 parts saws and building yet another 920!) I just like them and they are easy to work on as well. Nice to live with in the field as they start easy and have good solid power. I also believe the 820/920 series have stood the test of time better than the 2094/5 series..just because of the number of toasted 2094's I've seen verse the 920's which might be beat to crap but still have good internals.

 

[the westspartan]

Don't have any experience with the 920, but I love my 2095. Loads of power and pretty zippy for a saw of that displacement. I like them better than any currently available saw in that size.

 

[Chris J.]

Weimedog, I like opinions based on experience.

The 920 will probably get the nod first, simply because it won't require locating as nearly as many parts as the 2095 will. It'd be nice to find a complete 2095 with bad bottom but a good top end on the cheap, but what are the chances of that happening? When considering parts expense I have to remind myself of what a new/solid used/rebuilt newer 90cc class saw costs.
:Eye: /\ :Eye:

 

[tmessenger]

I sold a 2095 to an AS member off of the trader forum a couple of months ago was missing the clutch cover and coil but all else looked good for $150 so it does happen.

 

[MacLaren]

Can only offer opinion from my experience..I have a 820 two 920's and a 2094 all in good running condition along with a pile of 920 parts saws and some 2094 parts. My 2094 doesn't have a compression release and that alone makes it not a practical work saw.....my 820 is a wonderful day to day work saw. A 2095 with a compression release its an a$$ kicker of a saw! My 2094 is a wonderful GTG saw as its impressive cutting cookies...as fast as any stock saw I have seen to this point. Your 2095 may be the best of both worlds... All those weight around the same as well..just the 2094&5's are really strong saws. Parts are easier to come by aftermarket for the 2095. You can ebay Cylinder/piston kits for $150 bucks or so. Not so for the 820/920 series although pistons are still available. (I bought one of each of the three aftermarket pistons for comparison..Espian, Meteor, and Golf. All were acceptable for work saws.) If I was advising from a practical point of view... I would say build the 2095. But doing what I want cause I just like certain illogical things...the 920 would be my choice...which is a project I am actually starting today.(Taking 4 parts saws and building yet another 920!) I just like them and they are easy to work on as well. Nice to live with in the field as they start easy and have good solid power. I also believe the 820/920 series have stood the test of time better than the 2094/5 series..just because of the number of toasted 2094's I've seen verse the 920's which might be beat to crap but still have good internals.

I agree, I have a 2094 and its the fastest/strongest stock saw Ive ever ran. However, I believe the 2094 is a little different from the 2095 as I think that the 2094 has lineage from the Jonsereds 930 and the 2095 that of the Husqvarna 394/395. That being said not a whole lot of difference, but IMO, the 2094 is a little stronger than a 2095. But as you said the comp release butoon sure is nice! And I agree. My 2094 does not have one either. However, I was surprised taht it really wasnt that hard for me to start either. If it were me I would go with the 920 as a project saw due to p/c being ok and all/not to mention that the 2095 as he put it is a carcass......Both would make good projects IMO......

 

[weimedog]

. But as you said the comp release butoon sure is nice! And I agree. My 2094 does not have one either. However, I was surprised taht it really wasnt that hard for me to start either..

I also think both are excellent projects..my 2094 is running close to 200psi compression. Has no base gasket, assembled it with Three Bond 1194 instead..and I don't recommend anyone else do the same! Had good compression to begin with and has STUPID compression now..some other AS members can verify what I say is my guess. It is really hard to pull over without damaging the pull start...BUT when I get a clean pull it lights off pretty quickly and runs amazing for what it is. Tuned it to 13,200 no load RPM's (Has seen 14,000) and its running around 10,500 to 11,000 in the cut right now.. (I have three pull starts for spares!) Its UGLY!!! But fast and fun!

 

[the westspartan]

I agree, I have a 2094 and its the fastest/strongest stock saw Ive ever ran. However, I believe the 2094 is a little different from the 2095 as I think that the 2094 has lineage from the Jonsereds 930 and the 2095 that of the Husqvarna 394/395. That being said not a whole lot of difference, but IMO, the 2094 is a little stronger than a 2095. But as you said the comp release butoon sure is nice! And I agree. My 2094 does not have one either. However, I was surprised taht it really wasnt that hard for me to start either. If it were me I would go with the 920 as a project saw due to p/c being ok and all/not to mention that the 2095 as he put it is a carcass......Both would make good projects IMO......

The 2095 is still pure Jonsered. It is actually the last pure Jonsered. It is pretty much the same saw as the 2094 with a few differences (like the decomp!). They originally came on the Jonsered chainsaw mill.

 

[MacLaren]

I also think both are excellent projects..my 2094 is running close to 200psi compression. Has no base gasket, assembled it with Three Bond 1194 instead..and I don't recommend anyone else do the same! Had good compression to begin with and has STUPID compression now..some other AS members can verify what I say is my guess. It is really hard to pull over without damaging the pull start...BUT when I get a clean pull it lights off pretty quickly and runs amazing for what it is. Tuned it to 13,200 no load RPM's (Has seen 14,000) and its running around 10,500 to 11,000 in the cut right now.. (I have three pull starts for spares!) Its UGLY!!! But fast and fun!

Wow! I bet that 2094 is an animal!!!! Would certainly love to run it one day!
Oh man, I bet its every bit as hard to pull over as you say..... awesome saw mang!

 

[MacLaren]

The 2095 is still pure Jonsered. It is actually the last pure Jonsered. It is pretty much the same saw as the 2094 with a few differences (like the decomp!). They originally came on the Jonsered chainsaw mill.

Cool. I have been tossin around the idea of adding a decomp to mine if I have it ported....

 

[weimedog]

How would u add a decomp? That would make mine SO much better!

 

[MacLaren]

How would u add a decomp? That would make mine SO much better!

I hope Chris is allright with this-I dont want to jack his thread-Chris if you like Ill pm him or start a new thread after this reply........

You can order the decomp button for the 2094. I understand that they actually did make the 2094 with the decomp about midway thru production which I believ was from 1990-1993 so somewhere along the end of 91 I guess is when they came with the decomp button. You would prolly need a machinist to do it. It can and has been done. I actually already have the decomp button I ordered off fleabay before I ever joined AS. However, I was kinda discouraged from doing it. I think there could have been some issues with sealing proplerly but I think if done right it would be fine.

 

[Chris J.]

The more info the better! Hi-jack away.

I just took some photos of the 2095, will post 'em after I crop & resize.

 

[MacLaren]

The more info the better! Hi-jack away.

I just took some photos of the 2095, will post 'em after I crop & resize.

Cool! Ill be waitin!

 

[lwhaples]

Yep, waiting on pic's. Would love to have a 2095 to build up.

 

[Chris J.]

Jonsered 2095, not much left.

I'm trying to imbed the images, it ain't working.

Edit--I screwed this up; I hate the Kodak EasyShare software that I'm using.

 

[weimedog]

 

[Bowtie]

Can only offer opinion from my experience..I have a 820 two 920's and a 2094 all in good running condition along with a pile of 920 parts saws and some 2094 parts. My 2094 doesn't have a compression release and that alone makes it not a practical work saw.....my 820 is a wonderful day to day work saw. A 2095 with a compression release its an a$$ kicker of a saw! My 2094 is a wonderful GTG saw as its impressive cutting cookies...as fast as any stock saw I have seen to this point. Your 2095 may be the best of both worlds... All those weight around the same as well..just the 2094&5's are really strong saws. Parts are easier to come by aftermarket for the 2095. You can ebay Cylinder/piston kits for $150 bucks or so. Not so for the 820/920 series although pistons are still available. (I bought one of each of the three aftermarket pistons for comparison..Espian, Meteor, and Golf. All were acceptable for work saws.) If I was advising from a practical point of view... I would say build the 2095. But doing what I want cause I just like certain illogical things...the 920 would be my choice...which is a project I am actually starting today.(Taking 4 parts saws and building yet another 920!) I just like them and they are easy to work on as well. Nice to live with in the field as they start easy and have good solid power. I also believe the 820/920 series have stood the test of time better than the 2094/5 series..just because of the number of toasted 2094's I've seen verse the 920's which might be beat to crap but still have good internals.

What if i had a good 2095 piston and cylinder?

 

[weimedog]

What if i had a good 2095 piston and cylinder?

I imagine both the originator (Chris J.) of this thread (who's pics I put up for him) and I would be interested in that...and that would probably confuse him a bit on where to start! I also have another 2094 in exactly the same condition as his! Let him contact first (this thread was his) but if not...let me know what you are thinking.

 

[Chris J.]

Hopefully some images............