Jumping through hoops.

[beastmaster]

Were finely doing this Oak tree removal. View attachment 186027 A consulting Arborist recommended the tree be removed as it posed a hazard to the homes on each side of it.
There are conks all around the trunk View attachment 186025 and has beetle damage View attachment 186028
To get permission from L.A. County to remove the tree we had to have a hearing, submit a Site report, Pay and have a second opinion, have Their City arborist inspect the tree, and finely get a write off from the forestry dept. Then we were granted permission to buy a permit to remove the tree.
Other then the conks and beetle damage the tree seems pretty healthy. It's kind of a fun removal because of all the perfect rigging limbs. We Use the knuckle crane to remove several large branches from over the house next door View attachment 186026
I am piecing out another limb over the home owners home that is interwove with another Oak, taking care not to break any of the 100 year old clay tiles beneath it so we can do a lift with the crane tomorrow. Talk about a awesome tree to do limb walking on. Iv'e got ropes all over that tree, so I can go out to the tips and remove some of the brush on the ends.
I'm not saying its a difficult removal, but it's one of the most fun removals I've done in a long time. Worth the wait. Beastmaster

 

[DDM]

Were finely doing this Oak tree removal. View attachment 186027 A consulting Arborist recommended the tree be removed as it posed a hazard to the homes on each side of it.
There are conks all around the trunk View attachment 186025 and has beetle damage View attachment 186028
To get permission from L.A. County to remove the tree we had to have a hearing, submit a Site report, Pay and have a second opinion, have Their City arborist inspect the tree, and finely get a write off from the forestry dept. Then we were granted permission to buy a permit to remove the tree.
Beastmaster

Another Reason I'm glad I dont live in cali.... btw how much was the removal permit?

 

[flushcut]

Back in the early 70s WI rounded up all the hippies and promised them land out west in exchange for their land here. So they settled in CA and are living happily ever after screwing over the tree guy out there trying to bilk every last penny they can.
It looked like a fun tree, nice work! BTW I hear if you squish a hippy it's considered good luck.

 

[bomar]

what PITA but atleast it was worth the wait i agree with DDM glad i dont live in cali but i was wondering what you have to get a permit for just the big removals or small ones to?

 

[treemandan]

Looking good Beasty Baby. Sorry to see it go, what a monster! That's all the pics?

 

[beastmaster]

Its only Oaks, Calf. sycamores, and calf. walnut trees that are protected in Calif., but many citys have their own bylaws concerning tree removal, and requirer a permit and the planting of another tree to replace it. This is only the second time I know of that anyone has bothered to go though the trouble of getting a permit.
We normally just take em out. But Oaks are a big thing out here and one of this size would get noticed and reported by the whole block.
The boss is milking this job for everything its worth. Were getting a day rate and he doesn't want us to move to fast. I think I could of had it down in a day easy. but tomorrow will be day three. Iv'e been working this tree SRT for the most part, sence I have the time to practice. It really is faster then using DRT for the most part. Once your line is set, you just move the end of the rope around where you need it.
This is the first time we've used the cargo nets to load wood. That is a back and time saver to say the least. You got love that knuckle boom. It'll reach out almost 60 ft. It's an altec.
The HO are heart broken over losing this Oak. It was a beautiful tree. There is another one in the corner of the property that has the same kind of Conks and beetles and it'll probably end up being taking out also.
As a side note my Boss is going to take the trunk of this tree and make a playhouse/fort for his daughter. He's going to carve it out. Cool. Here is some more Photos.
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[bomar]

oh ok what a trip how they protect just some of the species of trees and the size same thing as the redwoods being protected i guess but ya that is nice i wish my boss told me to milk it lol thats nice getin paid day rate or it can be at the right time but ya good time to practice i think it is faster using SRT once you get the hang of it i need more practice myself to.Looks like a fun job man and sounds like you got the right tools to work smarter and not harder always a + . those altecs are nice save a bunch of time if you can boom that #### out. well good luck man and be safe dont move to fast enjoy that gravey train while your on it :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[John Guo]

If you're insurance company can email you a copy of your insurance certificate (or you may be able to log in to their website) then you can print it out and take it to the post office to get your car tax.

 

[BC WetCoast]

what PITA but atleast it was worth the wait i agree with DDM glad i dont live in cali but i was wondering what you have to get a permit for just the big removals or small ones to?

We work in about 10 municipalities and each one is different. Some require permits for trees greater than 24", others for removals greater than 8". Some don't require any permits. Some only require permits if the tree is within 50' of a creek.

Some municipalities have replanting requirements, some don't. The ones that do have variations, for some it's one for one, others it's two or three for one depending on size.

We have a two page cheat sheet just to keep it sorted out.

 

[treeseer]

Good post and pics; thanks. It would also be great to see a butt cut, to get an idea of the decay involved. opcorn:

The HO are heart broken over losing this Oak. It was a beautiful tree. There is another one in the corner of the property that has the same kind of Conks and beetles and it'll probably end up being taking out also.

so why was one condemned and one not? Here's hoping the consultant does more than see conks before condemning.

o and flushcut, squishing a redneck is bad luck cuz they leave a stain. just kidn mang. :msp_rolleyes:

 

[beastmaster]

Good post and pics; thanks. It would also be great to see a butt cut, to get an idea of the decay involved. opcorn:



so why was one condemned and one not? Here's hoping the consultant does more than see conks before condemning.

o and flushcut, squishing a redneck is bad luck cuz they leave a stain. just kidn mang. :msp_rolleyes:

We removed most of the big wood yesterday with the knuckle boomView attachment 186316
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The tree was one of the more sound big Oaks I've ever seen. Other then some staining there was no decay so far.
They decided to remove another Oak near by that also has conks and beetles.View attachment 186312
I don't know if this root had anything to do with stressing the tree or not.View attachment 186320
This Oak doesn't have any targets other then some branches inter tangled in the 220 coming off a power line. Its a nice tree also.View attachment 186311
Were running out of room for all that wood so were waiting to do the butt cut on the first Oak tell after the next one is mostly down.
I am also curious about the amount of decay we'll find, if any,when we drop the trunk. The second Oak does have visual decay in the trunk, but nothing out of the ordinary.
I noticed several dead and dieing oaks in the general area, there seems to be a lot of beetles in the area, but I was told it was the conks that sealed the deal on the removals. I think they are artist conks, but its hard to ID them because there dead, broken up, and dried out.
These Oaks were planted in 1936 and are integrated parts of the landscape, I too hope the consulting Arborist made the right call. I didn't notice any core samples or areas where the roots had been inspected on any of these Oaks, shouldn't that had been done before making the decision to remove them? Beastmaster

 

[squad143]

what PITA but atleast it was worth the wait i agree with DDM glad i dont live in cali but i was wondering what you have to get a permit for just the big removals or small ones to?

I do a fair bit of work in Toronto and the city requires an Arborist report & permit application for removal of any healthy tree 12" DBH or greater.

The permit fees range from $100/tree to $300/tree.

Trees that are dead, terminally diseased or imminently hazardous do not require a permit.

Most of my "city" work is removals of hazardous trees and the fastest way to receive exemption confirmation is to submit an arborist report and digital photographs. A bit of a pain, but you have to work with their system.

 

[squad143]

As a side note my Boss is going to take the trunk of this tree and make a playhouse/fort for his daughter. He's going to carve it out. Cool.

There is a chainsaw carver that I pass on my way up north who has done this with a large willow trunk. Looks cool. He put a playhouse on top, with a slide running down it. A lot of people are now stopping by to have their kids play on it while they check out his art studio. Next time I pass by, I'll get a few pics if I have the time.

 

[treeseer]

I was told it was the conks that sealed the deal on the removals. I think they are artist conks, but its hard to ID them because there dead, broken up, and dried out.
These Oaks were planted in 1936 and are integrated parts of the landscape, I too hope the consulting Arborist made the right call. I didn't notice any core samples or areas where the roots had been inspected on any of these Oaks, shouldn't that had been done before making the decision to remove them?

Excellent question. The answer is YES. They do look like artist conk, Ganoderma applanatum. your pic of the other tree shows a conk between ridges of good wood--this is normal and by itself no reason for removal. the fungus that makes these conks may be slow or fast but it is always measurable.

If the arborist did not do resisto or tomograph then the assessment does not seem competent. if the city arb okayed the removal with no strength loss measurement, then this process needed another hoop! the attached is about a related fungus.

any pics of beetles or their activity? many times people see oozing and think bugs when it is really infection. in any case the bugs are treatable.

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