Ran into a Townsend tree crew the other day, the ones that do power board work all across the US. They say that Shindaiwa and Husky are the only saws that hold up. They said nothing but good things about the Shindaiwa. So I ordered a 488 Shindaiwa from my local dealer. Can't wait to get it.
just ordered a Shindaiwa 488
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ClearH20Scott
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Good Choice B4r, now do yourself another favor and go to the
Walbro website, find your local distributor, and order the
HDA-79-1 for the machine with an adjustable High speed side
on the carburetor. The 488 is a great machine that now suffers
from the same thing as the newer 026/260, no high side to
adjust.
I did the above on the advice of Rich Hoffman, and it changed the
machine greatly. It now runs (I'm guessing) about 12500 RPM.
IMO, it ran too fast/lean before, and should have had more power
in the cut. I sold the saw to my uncle to finance a 651, and he
loves it, runs an 18" bar without trouble. You will like the saw.
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Walbro website, find your local distributor, and order the
HDA-79-1 for the machine with an adjustable High speed side
on the carburetor. The 488 is a great machine that now suffers
from the same thing as the newer 026/260, no high side to
adjust.
I did the above on the advice of Rich Hoffman, and it changed the
machine greatly. It now runs (I'm guessing) about 12500 RPM.
IMO, it ran too fast/lean before, and should have had more power
in the cut. I sold the saw to my uncle to finance a 651, and he
loves it, runs an 18" bar without trouble. You will like the saw.
www.walbro.com
bdenny
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488 carb
I also have just purchased a 488 from my local dealer. I knew it had a fixed jet before i bought it and i had ran a friends so i knew what to expect. I think the rpm is set at a more reasonable level than the 026. We put my saw on a tach and it runs about 12,600 no load rpm. In the repair manual I think it stated the max no load rpm for the saw was 13,500. It's a little low right now so i'm thinking after it breaks in (from what everyone says this saw is tight so it takes a while) it will be about right. I thought about replacing the carb with an adjustable but we'll see what happens. My dealer said these saws are always set up well as they always tach at 12500 or 12600 and usually within 100 rpm. I wonder how much a small muffler mod would increase my rpm. Maybe i'll do it anyway and keep track of it and if rpms seem to be gettting too high ill have an excuse to buy the adjustable carb.
I also have just purchased a 488 from my local dealer. I knew it had a fixed jet before i bought it and i had ran a friends so i knew what to expect. I think the rpm is set at a more reasonable level than the 026. We put my saw on a tach and it runs about 12,600 no load rpm. In the repair manual I think it stated the max no load rpm for the saw was 13,500. It's a little low right now so i'm thinking after it breaks in (from what everyone says this saw is tight so it takes a while) it will be about right. I thought about replacing the carb with an adjustable but we'll see what happens. My dealer said these saws are always set up well as they always tach at 12500 or 12600 and usually within 100 rpm. I wonder how much a small muffler mod would increase my rpm. Maybe i'll do it anyway and keep track of it and if rpms seem to be gettting too high ill have an excuse to buy the adjustable carb.
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I tried the modified muffler route. I gutted the entire muffler. I retained the side exit port and put a 1/2" port in the front. The saw fell flat on it's face. I have done many muffler mods for myself and friends and have always had a performance increase. I put a new stock muffler on and left it alone. The 488 with the fixed jet runs right at 12,500. I have 2 488's that I am running, Both have had the carb replaced with a fully adjustable carb. One runs at it's best at 12,700, the other at 14,000. These were set in the cut and checked with a tach afterwords. I can't explain the difference between the two. The 488 is a bit doggish when it is first ran. The saws are built pretty tight. Once they break in they are a great saw!
I tried the modified muffler route. I gutted the entire muffler. I retained the side exit port and put a 1/2" port in the front. The saw fell flat on it's face. I have done many muffler mods for myself and friends and have always had a performance increase. I put a new stock muffler on and left it alone. The 488 with the fixed jet runs right at 12,500. I have 2 488's that I am running, Both have had the carb replaced with a fully adjustable carb. One runs at it's best at 12,700, the other at 14,000. These were set in the cut and checked with a tach afterwords. I can't explain the difference between the two. The 488 is a bit doggish when it is first ran. The saws are built pretty tight. Once they break in they are a great saw!
Hmmm, dat's interesting, Rich.
As I've told you, my Greffardized 488 is just a tad slower than the 346. Maybe full mods are needed.
The brake goes off way too esily though. I tired to adjust it once, wonder if I need to turn the screw more? Any experience?
As I've told you, my Greffardized 488 is just a tad slower than the 346. Maybe full mods are needed.
The brake goes off way too esily though. I tired to adjust it once, wonder if I need to turn the screw more? Any experience?
chainsawworld
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i could have sold you a 488 that has the adjustable carb. it is a good saw but still behind the 026. i was going to modify the muffler to try to get more out of the saw but when i took it apart i found more plumbing than a new submarine. the exhaust really runs in circles. marty
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Rbtree, I think the adjustment screw you are talking about on the chain brake is for the band tension on the clutch. I dont think it will change the amount of effort needed to activate the brake but im sure rich or somene else can correct me if im wrong. I havent noticed the chain brake engaging too easily compared to other saws but i have noticed that it is easier to reset. I love the balance, feel, and light weight of this saw. I also like the simple individual controls and the gas and oil caps. They are easy to grab with your fingers and they never stick closed to the point where you have to use a scrench to loosen them. I also like the nylon filter on this saw and I think it stays clean just as long as my 350 with air injection did. Cool saw
brent
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picked up the saw today
Just picked up the 488 today. I haven't cut with it yet, but couldn't be more impressed with the saw. If people knew about the saws they would be big competition to Stihl and Husky. This saw is built like a rock. Lightweight and solid. Much better built looking than my 026 and husky saws.
Just picked up the 488 today. I haven't cut with it yet, but couldn't be more impressed with the saw. If people knew about the saws they would be big competition to Stihl and Husky. This saw is built like a rock. Lightweight and solid. Much better built looking than my 026 and husky saws.
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Re: Re: 488 carb
This probably happened because the saw leaned out with the muffler mods. You cant flow more air without adding fuel or the saw will almost die in the cut. This mod with the carb Scott mentioned would be the way to go
This probably happened because the saw leaned out with the muffler mods. You cant flow more air without adding fuel or the saw will almost die in the cut. This mod with the carb Scott mentioned would be the way to go
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I have the adjustable carb on my 488's. Maybe it is time to try the muffler mod again. Thanx, Rich.
I have the adjustable carb on my 488's. Maybe it is time to try the muffler mod again. Thanx, Rich.
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I would think the 488 would be especially receptive to muffler mods due to all the plumbing in the muff.
Just try fattening her up on the top end and she will beg for mercy
Just try fattening her up on the top end and she will beg for mercy
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Originally posted by HUSKYMAN
I would think the 488 would be especially receptive to muffler mods due to all the plumbing in the muff.
Just try fattening her up on the top end and she will beg for mercy
Cool, I'll try it!!!
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Re: can it run a 20" bar
No problem!!!
No problem!!!
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