Key Differences betwen Husky Stds. and XP's?

[dbabcock]

I know that Husky's XP saws are geared more toward pro use, but are there specific differences between them and non-XP saws in general?

 

[jokers]

Hi Doug, that`s a very model specific question. Any particular model you`re asking about? BTW, glad to see that Mr. Schizo(beginner) did not get his way and have you banned, LOL, or are you beginner? Russ

 

[eyolf]

I'm going to admit right out that I think it's an excellent question, Doug. At first glance, it would seem that the "XP" means higher performance, (for example, the 242xp & 346XP, which badly smoked the consumer saws in their size range) but I wonder if it isn't just a sales/marketing tool for bigger saws.

 

[Crofter]

Husky 365 Special

It is between the 362 XP and 372 XP, has rim sprocket system, recommended no load max rpm 1000 less than the XPs, but likes to run with it set the same as them. I don't know why Husky didn't give it the XP nod, but I'm curious.

Frank

 

[jokers]

Frank, what I`m wondering is why Husky even needs so many models so close together, although the 362xp is being dropped isn`t it? I think that you will find the most significant difference between the 365 and the 362 or 372 to be the type and timing of the porting. The 365 is supposed to have more grunt and would be much more suited to the average skilled user, say someone like my father who has never fully come around to the high revs of todays saws marketed to the pros. And I am not saying that ther 365 doesn`t rev.
Eyolf, I didn`t mean to convey that Doug`s question wasn`t a good one if that`s what you are saying? You did a good job of illustrating where the xp designation is more important, in the smaller, less expensive saws, but the water is muddied even in that range when you consider the 351/353 or the Jonsy 2149 which are not considered to be pro models. Russ

BTW, haven`t we been on topic for too long on this thread? Where do we get off?

 

[tony marks]

id like to see some info on what is done different in other brands also.
one fella told me the consumer saws didnt have solid block and i believe he said they werent put togather the way older saws were. while the pro versions were.this is just what i vaguely remember about what my mechanic said.
i answered mostly to get some knowledgeable feedback from those who may know. one thing i noticed about the little craftman consumer is that it had no oil adjustment.

 

[Newfie]

I once asked my dealer the same question and his answer was that it had to do with the quality of the piston and cylinder. The xp models have a higher quality in house version and the other models are farmed out to another manufacturer. I don't convey this as the gospel truth, just what I've been told.

 

[eyolf]

No offense, Russ...I posted at about the same time you did and hadn't even read yours. I did think it was an excellent question, hoping somebody who really knew would respond. I have a couple of Junk Huskies in the pile, like a 268, 61, etc. These were NOT labelled XP, but were a high-quality saw, many pros have used them. They do have lower performance (says who?...I dunno!) finger-ported cylinders, more cheaply manufactured, as opposed to at least some of the XP saws.

I do not know if all the XP saws have closed loop transfers, but it makes sense that many probably do.

I've often wondered why E-lux didn't go with a closed-loop jug in the 50cc size to compete head-on with the Stihl 026...seems like such a natural thing to do, rather than have a plastic and an alloy model choice in that niche. We've already learned that the rotating assy is the same as the 346, so it just makes sense...
KD has posted regarding boring 372 jugs to accept 385 pistons; maybe a burnt 346 jug could be found, bored, and nickasylled to make a 351XP.

 

[Tony Snyder]

I always thought the XP s were closed ported, but I have not confirmed that.

Maybe Dagger knows, since he worked for them.

 

[Dagger]

Tony, a few years back, when identifing closed port vs an open port in the Husky lineup was easy....all closed ports had 2 numbers.(like 266).and the open ported varients had 2 numbers(like 61) also they were designated pro...and consumer a little later, and by those same differences...closed and open. It was simply a marketing decision...by some fellas who misunderstood our market I always thought. Mostly because there was no difference in the quality of saw...and made on the same lines...by the same hands, and many times only a jug an piston and carb seperated the 2...all the bottoms the same. Several companies still do it that way, but not big E anymore. But also there are many more cylinder configs today than then. and some of the quality open ported saws are well accepted by professionals who still want quality and longevity as their performance suits them.
quad ports..closed loops...opens runner and several different mods...some even called semi open ports....anyway...with Big E saws....and (Stihls) too, the quality of workmanship and parts really seperates the saws now.....not the port design. generally it can be said I think that all XP saws are closed ports or semi-open...(kinda like a quad looking deal)...but i really would not say they are all or the highest quality. Many saws made in many different plants simply dont share the same overall quality, and many saws being assembled from parts from several different plants across the world dont lend overall to the highest quality controls. My Dad used to tell me that the hardest vendor to keep high standards on the parts you bought from them was a sister company, because you couldnt buy the parts from a competitor (like you could if ya both didnt have the same daddy calling the shots). Dad was the plant manager a couple of ag equipment manufacturing cocerns in his carrer. The secret in getting the best saw from big E, is get the hioghest quality design assembled in their best plant...(in Husqvarna Sweden)....and since they own about 10 of em now in 9 different countries and also are assembling parts in Husqvarna for the low end market...it is hareder to figger out all the time. The little tag on a husky that says electrolux ab..sweden, means nothing as far as this goes.

 

[dbabcock]

DAGGER IS BAAAACK!!!! Thank God. I've been all antsy and confused for months, but now I'm OK. Welcome back, Dagger!

 

[Gypo Logger]

Yes, it's good to have Dagger back, but who ever started this thread was trying to bore us to tears by asking questions just for the sake of asking them, rather, just enjoying the sound of his own voice.
Humphrey Dumbroski

 

[Dagger]

HEHE jeez DB...relax....I am just busy as hell right now...Been spending most of my evenings an spare time building an airplane....and im still workin on that radial engine design...just can find an engine that suits me that I can afford!....i'm in a motel tonite..on the road...I'm up to my top handle with work....and finally got my laptop to work again, so I thought id visit!

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hey Dagger, Doug will be ok, he must have got into that gut rot Remi Martin mule piss again.
John

 

[sawracr]

Back to the question at hand, I have seen the diffrence in the SEvsXP and that is not always the same, but closed as compaired to open is one differance, an other is the volume in the transfers, side by side you will see in some models the transfer area is bigger. Also carburation and igntion timing, were a part of the XP, and once again the differances were not always the same, forgot to mention some time the piston was differant. Jon