Kids these days

[discounthunter]

i think some people forget public schools are better in some areas than others,same as home-school. there are certain requirements of both parents and kids that home school,but it is not the same every where.in georgia anybody is allowed to home school,they are trying to get a certification for parents before they can home-school but i dont beleive its in place,where as teachers are required to have a minimun of a BS and are now being required to get their masters.

i know of one child whos mom pulled him out of kindergarden!? because she didnt like the type of education being given,this fine specimen of a human shot herself in the knee with a 22rifle while cleaning it!!




any one want to start a tread in the off topic area to furhter this discussion?

 

[davec]

Dont believe me? What if I asked you all to divide 63 in 3471? On paper? How many of you could do it?

Lets' see... It's hard to write this out on a computer so it is legible...
...... 55
63|3471
.... 315
.....0351
......315
......036

So 55 with a remainder of 36, or roughly 55 1/2. What do I win? No calculators were used in the performance of this math. It ain't that hard...

 

[bobt]

Lets' see... It's hard to write this out on a computer so it is legible...
...... 55
63|3471
.... 315
.....0351
......315
......036

So 55 with a remainder of 36, or roughly 55 1/2. What do I win? No calculators were used in the performance of this math. It ain't that hard...

A little "funny" math going on here? It used to be that 7-5=2

 

[kugss]

roughly 55 1/2

Half of what? Must have been home schooled

 

[logbutcher]

The classrooms that I knew growing up were an extension of the way that time and space are organized in an industrialized society - row seating (dame schools were less formal), periods begining and ending at the sound of a bell. The remnants of reforms that were introduced in the 19th century as America was transitioning from an agrarian to an industrial society. Just one example.
to wit...
I in no way suggest that kids that don't attend a public, parochial, or preparatory school are social retards. I used to provide direct services to educators in all phases - public, private, and homeschool. Often interacting with the kids themselves. Amongst the latter, some of the finest young people I've met were taught at home. Conversely, some of the least well-adjusted too.
The 'apprenticeship' aspect was only part and parcel of the overall system. At the core of the practice of putting out was the conviction that natural born parents were prone to 'over-indulging' the rebellious spirit of their own children. Since there was a strict social protocol on how household servants were to behave, the surrogate parents into whose families kids were put into were entrusted in maintaining the social order and proper respect for authority.
I see where your coming from - and good for your daughter. Seems that in an ideal world, one should be able to do the math and be able to articulate the principles behind it. Might make for better relations between management and engineers - obviating Dilbertesque miscues and abominations like Stihl flippy-caps.

We're always impressed with my New England neighbor's acumen and intelligent analysis of uninformed opinions here. Mostly :agree2: . There is a deserved elite intelligence to our northern New England DNA .

BUTT WB:

1. Check out our departed neighbor (-"our" for our Brit relations) E.B. White in his tome called "Strunk & White" on proper grammar. The police are looking.

and....

2. Those "abominations" flippy caps you detest are deservedly the finest invention since silicone implants, the internet, and sliced bread.

Otherwise, keep up the fine posts.

For those of you whining about "those kids", they are the volunteers in harms way for you and I. Forget the grossly obese among us waddling into Wally World, taking over Handicapped spaces, they don't serve. That could be a whole other post and a 2 sixpack conversation (or Laphroaig).

JMNSHO

 

[NCPABill]

Well, you both have some good points. There are homeschoolers, and then there are homeschoolers. I suppose I should have made the caviat that when it's done right, home education is the best way to do it, but done wrong, it's probably the worst. Still, I would argue that the best that the Public system can do is far below the best that the home system can do.

I am a teacher at a public school and would have to agree wholeheartedly. Public school lacks only in comparison, much like a general practitioner lacks the skills to do brain surgery. However, the brain surgeon probably doesn't diagnose other things as adeptly as a family doctor...

It is not necessarily fair to compare the two educations - they are different forms with different results. We have many students on the "prolonged dropout" home school program, but in all fairness, there are two families (nine kids total) who do homeschooling right. They are polite, book smart, and involved in school activities (their right in PA). Having coached a couple of these kids, I would put them on my team even if they weren't the best athlete - they work hard and deserve respect for the respect given.

 

[unclemoustache]

any one want to start a tread in the off topic area to furhter this discussion?

I'll take you up on that. This thread belongs over there anyway. I'll quote a couple things over there to continue it.

 

[woodbooga]

We're always impressed with my New England neighbor's acumen and intelligent analysis of uninformed opinions here. Mostly :agree2: . There is a deserved elite intelligence to our northern New England DNA .

LOL. Half of my DNA was imported from Poland. A good chunk also too from the banks of the River Shannon. Some ancestors got busy with the Mohawks about 120 years ago too. Ethnically, as unYankee as you can get.

BUTT WB:

1. Check out our departed neighbor (-"our" for our Brit relations) E.B. White in his tome called "Strunk & White" on proper grammar. The police are looking.

An ill-informed tome whose saving grace is it's shortness in length. But its one bright spot hardly outweighs the consequences of a half-century of literary miseducation.


and....

2. Those "abominations" flippy caps you detest are deservedly the finest invention since silicone implants...

Very apt my friend. I likem natural.

But in marketing to those favoring built-in falsies, Stihl should send you a thank you note for what is sure to inspire a new marketing slogan - "Flippy caps: The Fake Boobies of Chainsaws."

Accordingly, the entire line-up will be re-named. Henceforth, the MS211 will be known as the "Jennifer Aniston" (small and perky) and the 361 will be Pamela Anderson. Corresponding adjustments will be made to the anti-vibe to appropriately modulate the jiggle factor ideal for each.

For those of you whining about "those kids", they are the volunteers in harms way for you and I. Forget the grossly obese among us waddling into Wally World, taking over Handicapped spaces, they don't serve. That could be a whole other post and a 2 sixpack conversation (or Laphroaig).

JMNSHO

...and the beat goes on. In 1700, the likes of Increase Mather lamented that the young generation lacked the resolve of the settling generation of the 1630s and '40s. Their grand kids would fight a War of Independence.

The Centennial generation of the 1870s lamented their lacking the resolve of the Founding generation - all the while transforming the U.S. into the world's leading industrial power.

Those coming of age in the Depression worried that American society was on the brink of collapse. They then went on to fight a World War and made the U.S. the world's leading superpower.

Is American greatness a given? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe the occasional lament is the periodic gut check we need to re-affirm our values, gird our loins, and carry on.

Two cliches by way of parting -

-The future is what we make it.
-Teach your children well. (Channel your inner Graham Nash and sing along).

 

[logbutcher]

LOL. Half of my DNA was imported from Poland. A good chunk also too from the banks of the River Shannon. Some ancestors got busy with the Mohawks about 120 years ago too. Ethnically, as unYankee as you can get.


An ill-informed tome whose saving grace is it's shortness in length. But its one bright spot hardly outweighs the consequences of a half-century of literary miseducation.


and....


Very apt my friend. I likem natural.

But in marketing to those favoring built-in falsies, Stihl should send you a thank you note for what is sure to inspire a new marketing slogan - "Flippy caps: The Fake Boobies of Chainsaws."

Accordingly, the entire line-up will be re-named. Henceforth, the MS211 will be known as the "Jennifer Aniston" (small and perky) and the 361 will be Pamela Anderson. Corresponding adjustments will be made to the anti-vibe to appropriately modulate the jiggle factor ideal for each.




...and the beat goes on. In 1700, the likes of Increase Mather lamented that the young generation lacked the resolve of the settling generation of the 1630s and '40s. Their grand kids would fight a War of Independence.

The Centennial generation of the 1870s lamented their lacking the resolve of the Founding generation - all the while transforming the U.S. into the world's leading industrial power.

Those coming of age in the Depression worried that American society was on the brink of collapse. They then went on to fight a World War and made the U.S. the world's leading superpower.

Is American greatness a given? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe the occasional lament is the periodic gut check we need to re-affirm our values, gird our loins, and carry on.

Two cliches by way of parting -

-The future is what we make it.
-Teach your children well. (Channel your inner Graham Nash and sing along).

Apt old boy :agree2: .

Who the H is "Jennifer Aniston" ? I recognise Pam Anderson from the supermarket tabloids that I read standing in line ( "ELVIS FOUND TO BE PREGNANT !!!! ").

Graham Nash ??!!???:monkey:

Butt: you blaspheme Sthil's contribution to machismo. You are forgiven my son.

Now if you all would enjoy some Americana cultur, come to Castine, Maine (home of Maine Maritime Academy) today @ 1800 for a concert. Free. You will be blessed with yours truly's solo of our national anthem along with assorted music for a summer's day on the historic Castine Town Green. Google for GPS coordinates.