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LOL Rock, but we must know the rules before we break them!
One thing I have seen often is broken neutrals in the service drop causing cable lines to act as the neutral, carrying alot of current- usually in older buildings that have lousy or no ground systems.
One thing I have seen often is broken neutrals in the service drop causing cable lines to act as the neutral, carrying alot of current- usually in older buildings that have lousy or no ground systems.
Lumberjack
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Originally posted by netree
LOL Rock, but we must know the rules before we break them!
One thing I have seen often is broken neutrals in the service drop causing cable lines to act as the neutral, carrying alot of current- usually in older buildings that have lousy or no ground systems.
I know most of the rules that ANSI provides for us. The only reservation I have about TV or phone lines is the chance for there to be a leakage from the electrical line, which could energize the TV or cable.
Carl
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That is what ANSI says for untrained workers (must be documented training) ANSI 5.2.5. ANSI 5.2.4 says that qualified should avoid contact up to 1 kv.
It is on page 5 and the tables are on 6
Carl
It is on page 5 and the tables are on 6
Carl
Carl,
I have to agree with everyone else. All the safety issues as well as the goofy body position. Use one hand only as a last resort, and usually when you need to reach way out and below.
Main thing is, most of us suggest losing the idea of leaving lower branches when doing a removal. The idea is simply daft. It is super easy to get a branch to drop where you want it, or handle it and make a neat ground pile..cool if you have no ground help...which is not a good idea, working alone, ya know.
Many climbers wouldn't bother setting a lifeline, and most western spur climbers (read untrained hacks) wouldn't even think of it. I might do a high set, but only if it was easy, otherwise I'd just tie in a bit above me as needed if I wanted to reach out a ways to shorten the length of the branch being cut.
Re helmets, I have a Pacific, pricey but worth it. They are kevlar and superior to plastic petzl's, and only a bit heavier. Nothing wrong with a $10 hard hat though, just get a chin strap. Available at Sherril now too.
MasterB, your idea of cutting the heck out of the brush on the trailer is only a good idea if it's a dump trailer. Makes it too hard to unload. I speak from experience, as I worked out of a pickup from 85 to 89, just hiring chipper subs on bigger jobs. I would dice my loads but only a bit to compact, and load the branches butt to the front, with a one foot gap behind the cab, then flip the load out. I rarely had a dump where you could tie off a rope (laid underneath) and pull the load out. I often used to get over a ton of brush on my old 3/4 ton twuck.
You're a good kid, don't be afraid to learn from us, just the few of us here so far have close to 100 yrs experience.
Hey Nick, got your Tree House Video yet?
Here's a shot of what was left of the pine that took close to 65 manhours to do. Stump grind was $300, plus $200 to haul the chips...stump was a 5 footer.
I have to agree with everyone else. All the safety issues as well as the goofy body position. Use one hand only as a last resort, and usually when you need to reach way out and below.
Main thing is, most of us suggest losing the idea of leaving lower branches when doing a removal. The idea is simply daft. It is super easy to get a branch to drop where you want it, or handle it and make a neat ground pile..cool if you have no ground help...which is not a good idea, working alone, ya know.
Many climbers wouldn't bother setting a lifeline, and most western spur climbers (read untrained hacks) wouldn't even think of it. I might do a high set, but only if it was easy, otherwise I'd just tie in a bit above me as needed if I wanted to reach out a ways to shorten the length of the branch being cut.
Re helmets, I have a Pacific, pricey but worth it. They are kevlar and superior to plastic petzl's, and only a bit heavier. Nothing wrong with a $10 hard hat though, just get a chin strap. Available at Sherril now too.
MasterB, your idea of cutting the heck out of the brush on the trailer is only a good idea if it's a dump trailer. Makes it too hard to unload. I speak from experience, as I worked out of a pickup from 85 to 89, just hiring chipper subs on bigger jobs. I would dice my loads but only a bit to compact, and load the branches butt to the front, with a one foot gap behind the cab, then flip the load out. I rarely had a dump where you could tie off a rope (laid underneath) and pull the load out. I often used to get over a ton of brush on my old 3/4 ton twuck.
You're a good kid, don't be afraid to learn from us, just the few of us here so far have close to 100 yrs experience.
Hey Nick, got your Tree House Video yet?
Here's a shot of what was left of the pine that took close to 65 manhours to do. Stump grind was $300, plus $200 to haul the chips...stump was a 5 footer.
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Lumberjack
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The jury is still out on tht one. The guy in the last pic gets off from his new bouncing job in another 3 hours. He thinks that it is cool. I think it is crazy and so do his parents. He might get 3 hours sleep tonight before a test in the morning.
Carl
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I think that I have decided that I wasn't cutting like that, but was getting ready to decend to the next branch. On the MS200, both of my hands don't reall fit real comfy on the close handles.
I left the limbs on this one to keep the upper limbs from hitting the small well house, plus it contained the mess better. I always climb on the rope rather than spikes because it is easier for me. I used the bs to set the rope on the first try.
I want to learn, and I aint afraid. But I (as well as many others) don't blindly accept things. On a job where I had to rig everything, I would start at the bottom, but on a bombing job like this, it was easier for me to go up on ascenders and then come down using the i'D. I love learning, and have never met a stranger.
Anybody know where theTCI expo is gonna be, I bet I am goin.
Carl
I left the limbs on this one to keep the upper limbs from hitting the small well house, plus it contained the mess better. I always climb on the rope rather than spikes because it is easier for me. I used the bs to set the rope on the first try.
I want to learn, and I aint afraid. But I (as well as many others) don't blindly accept things. On a job where I had to rig everything, I would start at the bottom, but on a bombing job like this, it was easier for me to go up on ascenders and then come down using the i'D. I love learning, and have never met a stranger.
Anybody know where theTCI expo is gonna be, I bet I am goin.
Carl
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True but riding back home from a city 30 miles away, after being awake for 19.5 hours hasta increase the reapers chances. I bet (as well as his mother) that he drops it within 2 weeks.
Carl
Carl
Carl,
I fixed a couple of your pics..And some tips:
Change format to jpeg, much smaller file size than bmp.
I made these about 100 kb, and they still should lookm pretty good.
If you need a good free pic editor, try irfanview.com. I use ACDSee, but it aint free. As well Jasc Paint Shop Photo Album is cheap. Paint Shop pro is good, but pricier.
I fixed a couple of your pics..And some tips:
Change format to jpeg, much smaller file size than bmp.
I made these about 100 kb, and they still should lookm pretty good.
If you need a good free pic editor, try irfanview.com. I use ACDSee, but it aint free. As well Jasc Paint Shop Photo Album is cheap. Paint Shop pro is good, but pricier.
A little color and exposure change for fun, and sharpening:
Carl, did you just change a couple pics? Cause when I saved em they came out as bmp files, and one was 2.3 mb.
Here's a shot of 69m yr old Bob York( also by far the best steelhead fly fisherman ever) in the big pine.
Here's a shot of 69m yr old Bob York( also by far the best steelhead fly fisherman ever) in the big pine.
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Sacramento March, Detroit fall. But, Nashville Sunday March 28 is where you really need to be, for the Tree Climbing Championship of the ISA southern chapter. Ask anyone here!
You can stay Monday for the general session to get an earful about restoration pruning. (Anyone who sits in the front row and asks a flattering question gets a free magazine and bundle of ISA brochures.
That'll give you some hints about reduction pruning, since all restoration is done with reduction cuts. Then you may prune the next leaning tree instead of removing it--much more challenging technically but jsut as rewarding financially and maybe much more rewarding in less tangible ways.
re polesaw, buy a telescoper! Why would anyone want to deal with clipping those sections on and off?
re rich guy, yeah some are impressed by climbing w/o spikes. All are impressed by other qualities.
Lumberjack
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Nope all of my pics were jpegs. This computer is really slow so editing is a pain, but I think we got the wireless network up now so I can do it on the laptop.
Carl
Carl
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Steel cored flip line some times I DEDA it. I also use a rope lanyard sometimes.
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Hey Carl, what was the temp. when you did that tree? I thought it was to cold for just a t-shirt?
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