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[NeTree]

and 5...

 

[NeTree]

6...

 

[NeTree]

And last, but not least... #7.

 

[NeTree]

Originally posted by Stumper
Eric, I'm surprised that tree rates a crane. No doubt it will simplify some things. Is there something we can't see making it tougher?

Now that I have the rest up, I think you see what I mean.

1) Electrical hazards galore. A 2kV primary, and 4 service drops radiating out from the pole (some are hard to spot, but they're there).

2) Virtually NO drop-zone for anything larger than a twig because of the services.

3) Roping with taglines is impractical when EVERYTHING would have to be done that way, and crane access is GREAT.

4) Neighbor was kind enough to allow us to use her back yard as a LZ for a crane op, and to back the chip-truck into her driveway.

5) Tree has several LARGE defects extending signifigantly thru trunk and main leads. Shock-loads should be avoided.


Anyhow, there it is, and my take on the job.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Are you going to disconect all the service drops or leave them? Or are you on an intersection of transmission putting it on 2 sides of the tree?

It looks like a lot of the jobs I've got to do around here. Drop the service and rig the stuff over trans. out off a far spar. GRCS is a godsend there.

2D pictures never show everything though.

 

[NeTree]

Dropping services is impractical... there are 4, inclucing 2 10-apartment buildings.

So, I'll just work around it.

The primary is single-phase; all the power/phone/CATV lines are on the same side of the tree; at least THAT much will be easier.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Well, I guess the crane is called for, then.

 

[murphy4trees]

NE,
So what's your take really gonna be???
I Am talking dollars and sense....

 

[NeTree]

Minus the crane, fuel, payroll and misc...

Somewhere around $2k

 

[NeTree]

Here's something ya don't see every day around here:

A "Camperdown Elm" (Ulmus glabra Camperdownii)

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

The right tree for the spot. Is that the thing you don't see often?

 

[NeTree]

Yeah, that too.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Over where Gopher lives, there is this place they cut down a bunch of silver maple street trees, and replaced with red maple under transmission.

There was a recomendation fro hybrid or triflorum maples by a different consultant.

Oh and the other side of the strees, where there is not powere, they planted small ornimentals.

 

[NeTree]

Does that REALLY surprise you John?

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Suprize? No, irritate, yes.

Though i think he (Dave/Gopher) will leave his mark on that area. For te better.

 

[rbtree]

I snapped only a couple pics of this poplar row. I think I'll get the job. Another co bid $25,000 for them plus another with worse access. The customer laughed at them and said there was no way, as they'd need a second mortgage to afford the job. For now they're only considering this group, which has about 7 major leaders of about 12-16 inches at 20 feet, and 4-5 six to ten inch leaders. Smallest butt cut 24", largest about 52". The trees are about 100-110 feet tall, and pretty much touching both houses on either side. I will have 700-1000 in certified flagger fees plus road closure permits. 400 to 800 in wood removal costs plus Mike and his 17 ton boom truck to help with the lower 30 to 60 feet of trunks that wont be in our way for the Hobbs/lowering and speedline rigging. We'll use two climbers, one to rig and one to cut...works slick with tall poplar leaders. We likely won't need to speed line a lot, but may use the chipper winch to pull the butts right to the feed wheels. I have a dump 10 minutes away for the expected 4 loads of chips. I expect 2 to 2.5 days, and may come in around 8000 total.

The remaining tree (not pictured) would be very hard, but I think I can get the cable co to drop their pole to pole lines, as the pwr co already said they'll drop their secondary....Good thing it is not a primary! I can likely then do that tree for $3000, which would bring me in under 50% of the other bid. Otherwise, it would be worth $6000 easy.

Just call me the problem solver...and master rigger.....companies that are in awe of big trees often call for the huge crane too soon. The other outfit said this would be the most technical job they'd done...and they are one of the better, more reputable outfits... to me the job will be challenging, due to the close quarters and road, but should go smoothly...I hope!

 

[rbtree]

Here's a couple of an ice (and customer) damaged elm that I spotted while out bidding today. I gave the guy a $1300 removal bid...the tree is savable (Guy Meilleur style) but due to the driveway it is cracking and its location in a small yard, and over another, and it's sad condition, it needs to go. The owner is unemployed, but the neighbor may help pay. He is a rock climber, and went up in it and did a lot of stubbing off too long branches last summer.

 

[rbtree]

pic 2

Lot's of line drops needed...could do tree without a crane, but no need to buck much wood, as I have sources for it. $215 crane bill well worth it for this job! I think we could do it in 4 hrs, the last two with the crane. Not bad for $1085.

 

[rbtree]

Pic 3

Counting crows.....

An old rock group...from Seattle, I don't recall....

 

[MasterBlaster]

Looks like a can of worms!