it doesnt scare me a whole lot until there are no trees for a long ways to catch you,there was i guy i met that flipped a timberjack similiar to mine'he said seventeen times?'i do not know what i do know is on my way to work the next morning i checked out where he lost it,####ing insane to have a skidder up there,i have been cat skinnin on d6c for several years and this was definately cat ground,the guy rolled over two traverse roads on probably a 800'tall ridge broke the thing completely in two and lived to tell the tale! to top the day off the boss fired him what an ahole!