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Don't forget to take these elective classes: Group Dynamics, Creative Whining, and Cussology I. But I think you have to have a preisit thing of a couple years of experience for Creative Whining. :) :)

Oh, and a logger who was logging here, recommends taking a couple quarters of Debate to deal with the Forest Service. I'd recommend a class in Abnormal Psychology for that too.

Don't forget Aberrant Behavior...An Introduction to Dealing With Bureaucrats and 'Ologists.

And Slowp...you know we don't whine. We just describe the situation in great detail. Over and over and over. :)
 
I would add a few more overs to that line in some instances. Had to listen to quite a bit yesterday done over the phone. But I would not rate it as very creative. I would give him a C- maybe a D. :)

A course in funny storytelling would be a good thing. This morning started out with a good one, and I would give him an A in the delivery of said story.

It had to do with touristas stating that All Wheel Drive is way better than Four Wheel Drive, a snowplowing dozer, and not having $100.
 
I can't tell it nearly as good, because it didn't happen to me. The teller also has the local dialect. He's from one of the been here a while families. Stay tuned, I gotta go walk another unit and then cut some stuff so more tourists can speed up the road to nowhere, turnaround and come back.
 
Ok, I'm at home trying to get warmed up after a morning in the outdoors in what can only be said are winter conditions...no snow but 40 degrees and a steady rain. So, I'll try to tell the story as best I can.

The setting is on the road to one of the good viewpoints to view Mt St. Helens. Often, it is plowed open by now but we have had too much snow this year so you can't even get close. You can't get anywhere on that road to even catch a glimpse right now. There are 3 signs up that say Road Closed 20
miles ahead, but still they come.

The logger was plowing into one of his units. Knowing the way people are on that road, he has permission to keep the gate closed. He plowed the area in front of the gate the very last.

When he was plowing the little area in front of the gate, a nice SUV comes up with two women in it (men also do this). One got out and asked him how to get to St. Helens. He told her that no way could she get there as there was too much snow. He couldn't even get up the road with his 4x4 truck. She then said well, her SUV was not just a 4 wheel drive, it was much better. It was an ALL wheel drive. He told her it didn't make no difference, she would get stuck. She only had highway tires on her rig. She argued and he said he felt like slappin' her. She then asked what that yellow thing was that he was driving. Maybe he could drive them up to the volcano in it? He told her that it was too far, too slow and no room for anybody to ride. Besides, he was ready to go home. She then got back in her SUV with ALL wheel drive and said she would drive there then--to the volcano. He asked her if she had $100 cash? She said no. He said then he wasn't going to pull her ass out when she got stuck unless she had $100 cuz that's what it would cost.

She got in her SUV. Meanwhile, her friend got out and asked if the logger would take her to town if the other got stuck. She said they had been on a road trip for the weekend and it had turned into a bad road trip and she didn't think she would stay friends anymore after this. I think he said he'd haul her to town.

Anyway, the ALL wheel drive vehicle started up the unplowed road, but not far as she chickened out and backed back down. She told the logger he was right, and they went on down the hill towards town. Not only was there too much snow, but there was also a locked gate on that road too. End of story.

That's the mentality of a lot of our visitors. So, I spent the morning in the rain cutting more bent over trees so the shiny new round (the ones lately seem to be round shaped) SUVs won't get scratched or dinged. Since gas prices ar so high, it seems to be only the high end $$$ ALL wheel drives that are going up there.

I'm warmed up now, time to go to town.:)
 
nice story, if i were him i wouldn't of argued and let them go up and i would leave as soon as they got in the snow part of the road.
:greenchainsaw:
 
I once rescued a couple in a chevy malibu that followed my tracks in. I was barely making it in 4WD. I can't figure how they made it as far as they did except for the fact that they were going down hill. When I asked what they were thinking about driving a car like that into 18" of snow they said "Well, you made it" LOL I had to drag them for over a mile after I got them turned around. It was almost dark and they weren't even grateful.
 
Slowp's story reminds me of a city fire watch and his girl friends.
There was a big ol sissy boy that had been hired for fire watch that had told every body who would listen what a great "lumberjack" he was.
One day at their lunch time as I was leaving, a Land Rover with two women pulled up and asked where this individual was. I directed them towards the landing and the crew there told them he was up the hill doing fire watch.
To make a long story shorter, they tried to drive the all wheel drive suv up the skid trail and evidently got stuck and almost turned over. The skid trail was blocked for over an hour after lunch while the fire watch used the company tractor to get them out.
He was suprised that the boss was mad and could not understand why the crew did not like him.
Later he was fired for sleeping while on fire watch.
 
Tourists will get stuck every day on that road. I think they believe the SUV commercials. I helped a Swiss Tourist get unstuck a couple weeks ago. She was trying to go through snowmobile packed gloppy snow in a rental van with street tires on it. I had turned my pickup around at that point and was working on a blowdown that was partially blocking the road. My "Bubba" pickup would have been stuck in that stuff. The same logger has pulled people out this year too. While working in the same area a couple winters ago, he found a woman stumbling down the road. She was stuck on the other side of the pass and thought a restaurant was nearby. She was lucky he found her.
 
College Degrees

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Tho not imediately related to logs , there was a guy who worked at the Garbage Transfer place in Sitka , ., Who would ask people who would do something real stupid [ WHERE DO YOU TEACH ]

.Just the thot of college degrees in the timber makes me want to kill something ..

I better stop there ..
 
Yea, I almost hate to admit it but I worked for Jack. Pay was good but was reputed to be the worst camp in AK. I was there working in Jan. Crazy I know!
Water froze, no electricity and the bunk house leaked heat like a sieve. You could set a cup of coffee by your bed at night and it would be frozen solid in the morning. We finally shut down when the snow was hitting me at the shoulders. We were logging the timber that LP tried to walk away from but the FS wouldn't let them in other words tough logging and poor timber.
One place a busheler had chalked on a log (this is the worst crap I ever cut) Bet he didn't make much that day!
Never ran into Bronco Billy. Did you know Scott Brown? He was killed the year after I left.

Hey, thats something to see this here. I knew Scott Brown, I was at Port Alice in 83 or 4. Do you know Luke and Slyvia at Tokeen?Anybody at Little Naukati? I also worked at several camps with Bronko Billy, some good stories about him.
 
At $30 an hr is there any other benefits to the job ????

Around here it is at least $50 an hour on the employers books and if you carry your own insurance, like I do, then it is around $70.
That is just day pay though, I would rather bushel (paid by the 1000mmbf) I have always made more bushling then day pay.
 
Around here it is at least $50 an hour on the employers books and if you carry your own insurance, like I do, then it is around $70.
That is just day pay though, I would rather bushel (paid by the 1000mmbf) I have always made more bushling then day pay.

what are you gettin' per thousand?
 
The crew gets a crummy, and their sawgas and oil supplied. They also seem to work pretty steady, although they have some long drives from home.

LOL...That's one of the things they never showed on Axe-Men. A two hour ride each way every day isn't unusual. A lot of outfits don't pay for the travel time, either, except for the guy driving the crummy.

I got to sleep in this morning...I'm usually up and gone by 1 a.m. and get home around five or six. Unless I'm loading...then the hours get really long.:)
 
One guy was driving 3 hours to get to work, falling for 6 hours, then driving back home. He bought an old, high mpg, deathmobile to commute in just because of the long drive and high fuel prices. Now he's working here so has a 20 minute commute over a bumpy, scenic road.
 

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