Mastermind Meets The MS241 C-M

[Stihlman441]

Bean there done that,ya not even close.:redface:

 

[nmurph]

I'll bet my left knacker that the 241 is within three ounces of a 550. Stihl (and most other saws BTW) saws are consistantly 5-8oz heavier than the specs. I know that a 346 is 11.3lbs and the 550 is spec'ed even lighter.

 

[deye223]

Sweet!! Kinda looks like a smaller 261..... I wanna see how this thing works out!!

wait till you see it with the top cover off :camera:

 

[MCW]

I'll bet my left knacker that the 241 is within three ounces of a 550. Stihl (and most other saws BTW) saws are consistantly 5-8oz heavier than the specs. I know that a 346 is 11.3lbs and the 550 is spec'ed even lighter.

You may be right but as mentioned it feels a lot lighter. I own both and both are awesome saws.
You're not Sawtroll's twin are you? :msp_biggrin:

 

[nmurph]

Nah, just stating my experience.:beer:

If you can read this, thank a 346

 

[Blazin]

Not yours.

I've got one here that looks like it might have been leaking at the base gasket a little before I tore it down for port work.....if it has it may need the carb reset. I won't know for sure until I fire it up.

Bah reset!! Just ram a piece of wire thru all the air passages, pay close attention to any that have a needle valve and keep hacking at it until the wire goes thru.....Then you'll have a runner!

 

[thomas1]

Bah reset!! Just ram a piece of wire thru all the air passages, pay close attention to any that have a needle valve and keep hacking at it until the wire goes thru.....Then you'll have a runner!

That is just dumb. Why would anybody in their right mind do that? Sounds like a good way to ruin a carb, to me.

 

[SawTroll]

For the weight(10.5lbs) and power(3.0hp),why? I thought they were lighter
I would like to see how it does ported against a stock 50cc saw that is about the same weight.
Its like the 024.Don't know why anyone got an 024 when you could get an 026.And then there was the 024 super.

That is the reason I am not really enthusiastic about the new breed of 42/43cc pro saws (420/421, MS241, 543xp) - the weight is too close to some much stronger 50cc saws (346XP, 550XP).

That is disappointing. A 550XP is only 8 oz heavier if the specs are accurate.

I found a 7 oz difference in the specs... where is ST when you need him??

According to KWF testing, both are slightly heavier than stated in the specs (.1 kg, about .2lbs), and the difference about 7 oz.
Those tests aren't perfect (and they are German), but they are the best sourse so far on that topic....

 

[MCW]

Let me say again...

I have no brand biases although I do lean towards the Huskies over Stihl. I own a 241 and a 550XP.
The 241 is a great saw and is a lot smaller and I believe more nimble than a 550. This is one case of where paper specs mean diddly.
The 241 is not a better saw than the 550XP or vice versa and for them to be compared to each other is stupid.
The 15% odd difference in capacity is like comparing a 372XPW to a 390XP. Different classes all together.

 

[H 2 H]

Let me say again...

I have no brand biases although I do lean towards the Huskies over Stihl. I own a 241 and a 550XP.
The 241 is a great saw and is a lot smaller and I believe more nimble than a 550. This is one case of where paper specs mean diddly.
The 241 is not a better saw than the 550XP or vice versa and for them to be compared to each other is stupid.
The 15% odd difference in capacity is like comparing a 372XPW to a 390XP. Different classes all together.

Who would talk about spec sheets all the time and not talk about USING the saw in question instead ?

Specially when they haven't used either saw :cool2:

 

[Arbonaut]

That is disappointing. A 550XP is only 8 oz heavier if the specs are accurate.

That and m-tronic makes the 241 a perfect saw for using in the bucket. Or in a tree.

 

[7sleeper]

That and m-tronic makes the 241 a perfect saw for using in the bucket. Or in a tree.

Why do you need m-tronic in a tree or bucket? This seems to be a little bit of over glorification of electronic carb adjustments.

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[Rudolf73]

Why do you need m-tronic in a tree or bucket? This seems to be a little bit of over glorification of electronic carb adjustments.

7

The carb adjusts for the difference in altitude :msp_wink:

 

[Jacob J.]

Why do you need m-tronic in a tree or bucket? This seems to be a little bit of over glorification of electronic carb adjustments.

7

Hmmm, I worked on a road crew doing ROW work for years and we never had any M-tronic saws...

The carb adjusts for the difference in altitude :msp_wink:

Yeah, that 60 or 70 feet of being up in the bucket can make all the difference.

 

[thomas1]

Hmmm, I worked on a road crew doing ROW work for 3-5 years and we never had any M-tronic saws...

 

[Arbonaut]

Why do you need m-tronic in a tree or bucket? This seems to be a little bit of over glorification of electronic carb adjustments.

7

I don't need it, but I'll have it anyway. When you go aerial, it is a lot of repositioning and stop and go with the saw. The calling card of the new gen saws is easy starting and adjusting during the cut. Sleeper, you always want to nit pick about the trivial stuff. Too young for manopause.

 

[husqvarnaguy]

He did say he worked for the government.

 

[dl5205]

Isn't the build style the same between a ms251 and a ms241? If not similar, what are the differences, besides cylinder porting and M-tune?

Weights that pass for OK on today's 40cc saws make me like my DolLy ps401 all the more.

I really hope the ms241 turns out to be 'all that', but for a lightweight, it seems to look like 'a little more'.

The husky 543 doesn't look like it'll be much lighter, sadly.

The ps421 might be the best current option, if you were to look past the gz4500, but why would you?

Other than my ps401, i've never used, or even SEEN in person any of these saws, so all my rambling is just based on specs. Which doesn't always tell the tale.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing this Oz mS241cM scattered out on MasterMind's workbench.

 

[MCW]

The M-Tronic and Autotune is a lot more effective than most people realise. If anybody has run a non modified, non M-Tronic strato they'll know that they have laughable throttle response. Anybody who's done limbing work knows that throttle response can actually be more effective than outright power. The extra torque is a bonus.
Both my MS241 and 550XP have very fast up/down throttle response out the box, unlike the stock MS201T and MS261 I owned.

Who would talk about spec sheets all the time and not talk about USING the saw in question instead ?

Specially when they haven't used either saw :cool2:

Yeah sorry about that. I got a bit ahead of myself

 

[MCW]

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing this Oz mS241cM scattered out on MasterMind's workbench.

Andrews saw will be the one scattered. I have paid Randy an extra $10 to scatter Andrew's saw everywhere.
Mine will be placed very methodically and strategically in pre determined spots on Randy's workbench. That sadly cost me an extra $20.