Maybe this is in the wrong forum, but just had to comment while driving around last night checking on some "wood sources" from building I couldn't believe how built up things have become here around Allentown, PA. I would drive and look at several areas and think to myself "not long ago this was all just fields or cornfields". It's a double-edged sword; it means a lot of free wood because of all of the building, but it sure is getting crowded around here. There's still a lot of open land, but way less than just a few years ago. I don't like to see it, but I guess it's "progress"...
Mixed feelings about the local "landscape" here in PA.
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Valkyrie Rider
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I grew up in Nazareth, PA
I lived there 26 years (moved about 4 years ago) and when I go back I can't believe the amount of "suburbia" neighborhoods, industrial parks, and shopping centers. I grew up surrounded by cornfields which are now all gone and full of homes.
I lived there 26 years (moved about 4 years ago) and when I go back I can't believe the amount of "suburbia" neighborhoods, industrial parks, and shopping centers. I grew up surrounded by cornfields which are now all gone and full of homes.
Jkebxjunke
*Politically Incorrect*
its everywhere... selling 'a little piece of the country'
people move out into the middle of nowhere... then they want the services that had back in civilization... they want peace and quiet.. but they want civilization too... you cant have both.. then pity the poor farmer who lives next to these new neighbors... they don't realize what living next to a farm is.. and they don't like the smells, noises or realize its not like a Norman Rockwell picture... you get the picture... I had better stop now or I will go on and on.. LOL:angrysoapbox: :rant:
people move out into the middle of nowhere... then they want the services that had back in civilization... they want peace and quiet.. but they want civilization too... you cant have both.. then pity the poor farmer who lives next to these new neighbors... they don't realize what living next to a farm is.. and they don't like the smells, noises or realize its not like a Norman Rockwell picture... you get the picture... I had better stop now or I will go on and on.. LOL:angrysoapbox: :rant:
KsWoodsMan
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Covenants ! Suburb additions have covenants.
What would be so wrong with the farmer next door making a set of covenants for his neighborhood and delivering them on the day of arrival for the new neighbors.
Things like you must have no less then 5 hounds and a pig or 4 cows, multiple vehicles no less then 2X the number of occupants of the home ( including minor children ), vehicles are not to be parked in the attatched garage. Must have farm machinery. If said farm machinery is not currently operable then a second nearly identicle machine is to be towed in and setting next to it. Your name and box # must be apparent on your mailbox. The rest of us are up at daybreak, if you want to keep late hours with your pool parties expect to be woke up bright and early when we start work.
I'm sure there could be more
What would be so wrong with the farmer next door making a set of covenants for his neighborhood and delivering them on the day of arrival for the new neighbors.
Things like you must have no less then 5 hounds and a pig or 4 cows, multiple vehicles no less then 2X the number of occupants of the home ( including minor children ), vehicles are not to be parked in the attatched garage. Must have farm machinery. If said farm machinery is not currently operable then a second nearly identicle machine is to be towed in and setting next to it. Your name and box # must be apparent on your mailbox. The rest of us are up at daybreak, if you want to keep late hours with your pool parties expect to be woke up bright and early when we start work.
I'm sure there could be more
Cattle, tractors, four wheelers, and certain dogs have right of way.
avalancher
Arboristsite Raconteur
I sure can symphisize with you(yeah, I know, I spelled that wrong, so sue me)
We moved to where we are 3 years ago. Five miles outside of town, right along Douglas Lake. A few neighbors, but nothing really visible except in the winter. Now some nut down the road is building CONDOS on the lake. Plans on building a nice restraunt and store along with it, and has already been complaining to the county board about the cheap beer joint down the road, says its bringing down the area and needs to be removed. Said beer joint has been there for over 50 years according to the locals. Then they proceeded to close our swimming hole right across from our house, fenced it off and are now calling it a "Beach Club".
Where they are planning on getting a bunch of yuppies to fill those condos, I have no idea. If you ask the locals about condos, they figure its something you are supposed to use between the sheets after the lights go out.:greenchainsaw:
We moved to where we are 3 years ago. Five miles outside of town, right along Douglas Lake. A few neighbors, but nothing really visible except in the winter. Now some nut down the road is building CONDOS on the lake. Plans on building a nice restraunt and store along with it, and has already been complaining to the county board about the cheap beer joint down the road, says its bringing down the area and needs to be removed. Said beer joint has been there for over 50 years according to the locals. Then they proceeded to close our swimming hole right across from our house, fenced it off and are now calling it a "Beach Club".
Where they are planning on getting a bunch of yuppies to fill those condos, I have no idea. If you ask the locals about condos, they figure its something you are supposed to use between the sheets after the lights go out.:greenchainsaw:
oldchuck
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Truly funny. Excellent sense of humor for somebody from Kansas.
spike60
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This kind of stuff really gets me worked up. Moving into the area is one thing, but re-writing the rule book to tell the locals how to live is major BS. I'd do a number on that sign.
Jkebxjunke
*Politically Incorrect*
just wait till you are not allowed to burn wood any more because the yuppie scum dont like the smell and thinks its bad to burn the trees and then you are not allowed to have a wood pile ect ect....
them-> :check: <--you
mga
wandering
where i grew up there used to be a huge sand and gravel pit, surrounded by woods. as a kid, we'd go down to the ponds, build rafts or catch some huge large mouth bass. we'd wade in the water and catch snapping turtles so large you could hardly pick them up. there were golden carp with fan tails larger than the body itself.
we'd spend hours playing "king of the hill" on top of the huge sand pile that was under a tall conveyor, or. we'd walk along a small creek that ran thru there and find actual indian arrow heads. my dog would spend the day chasing muskrats in the swamps, or we'd swim in the clearest pond you could imagine.
the woods had huge trees that we'd climb and hang ropes from to swing way out over the cliffs, or, we'd just build tree forts. was the best place for any kid to grow up around, and the gravel pit guys never threw us out or said a word. us kids would be down there from sun up to sun down. no one really got hurt, and if you did, you just toughen up and deal with it yourself.
now, there's an expressway over it and a huge shopping mall. on the other end are apartments upon apartments.
KsWoodsMan
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It is a shame to lose places like that where we spent time growing up. "The ponds" not far from where I grew up is part of a truckstop parking lot just off the bypass around town, now. The Star-Lite drivein is now a Super Wal-Mart and strip malls. It is now illegal to Cruize Main after 10:00 PM here. As teens that was a regular Fri-Sat night thing to be uptown. Either driving endlessly from end to end of a 2 mile stretch, parked at one end, the other or somewhere inbetween.
Like in Gross Point Blank, 'you can't go home'. When he does, he finds his boyhood home is gone, replaced by a 7-11.
We notice it most when we leave and come back after a few years. Some people call it "Progress". But, what are we progressing towards ?
Nazareth area
Local Townships ( bushkill, plainfield, washington) just put in an ordnance that you can't burn your wood-boiler the months of June, July, and August. That is the smell of money moving in. Moore has no code on a wood-boiler. I have my thermo-pex planted 24 inches and through the wall. I will form up the pad this week-end and am waiting on my shaver 165. It should be here in two weeks. I told the code guy it was going in so that I will be grandfathered in, when someone wants to outlaw them here too. I say leave us rednecks alone.
:greenchainsaw:
Local Townships ( bushkill, plainfield, washington) just put in an ordnance that you can't burn your wood-boiler the months of June, July, and August. That is the smell of money moving in. Moore has no code on a wood-boiler. I have my thermo-pex planted 24 inches and through the wall. I will form up the pad this week-end and am waiting on my shaver 165. It should be here in two weeks. I told the code guy it was going in so that I will be grandfathered in, when someone wants to outlaw them here too. I say leave us rednecks alone.
:greenchainsaw:
jeeptj19992001
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do like i did, you don't like the area anymore, due to growth and progress....then move out...... i worked for a big builder in Bethlehem. built tons of houses in the last 10 years while working for them. saw the market failing, so i sold my house. left my job and moved to cny....got a job here that even pays more. bought 12 ac. w/ a newer house on it for a 1/8 of what i would of paid for in the lehigh valley. schools are great, air is clean, and my closet neighbor is a 1/2 mile away. ohhh and did i mention that i have 12 ac of woods to heat my wood boiler with.......
mga
wandering
nice set up. i always said that if i won the lottery, i'd buy 10,000 acres somewhere and build a house in the center of it. no neighbors to contend with...just me and the nature.
jeeptj19992001
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mga
wandering
i'm stuck in suburbia.
wife refuses to sell and move.:sword:
wife refuses to sell and move.:sword:
Trout 2003
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PA, I live right up the road from you in Williams Township right south of Easton and I know what you mean although I am somewhat part of the problem as I work for a construction management company. It does provide me with wood some times but at the same time I hate to see all the open space go the way of the do-do.
Well we won't hold it against you; you do have to work, right?!
I went to the site that I had talked about in the opening post (in Macungie) today just to see what was going on wood-wise and it's a good thing that I did-they had cut and hauled all of the "scraps" out (tops, branches, etc) and left what was usuable in nice neat piles which actually made my work easier. I took that as their way of saying "we have to get moving on building; take this now or kiss it goodbye". So I got a decent load of Maple and some White Birch (don't know what it is about W.B. that intrigues me, but when I try to split it by hand I think that I'm nuts for getting it!). But they have the lines painted on the ground and the wood posts in the ground with all kinds of markings on them. I'll keep watching for any more wood there, but I'll probably see homes being built rather than wood. Kind of depressing to see, plus I don't know how the roads around here can handle more traffic...
KsWoodsMan
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I don't know how the roads around here can handle more traffic...
Those roads probably won't. If it is anything like here the builder(s) will start the developement on some gravel or barely paved road. Once the city sees the need for improvement they will come in with a paving company after getting the funds approved. After the paving project is completed the landowners adjoining the new road will get an extra assessment on their yearly property taxes. God help the ones with lots of frontage to their hay meadow. In the end the city is out nothing. The landowners are carrying the burden and werent the ones that wanted or needed it the most.
Their answer : It's progress , someone (else) has to make sacrifices in the name of (our) progress .
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