More on the Weaver Recall...

[treemandan]

I mean recalls.

I just wanted to be sure everyone who had one knew how to get it fixed.

1-800-932-8371 is the main number to Weaver USA
That will start the proceedings, they will send you a form to fill out as well as the new parts. If you bought the thing in a store then I also suggest you call them for help as well.

Other than that its still a pretty comfortable saddle... well, if you don't fall out of it that is.

 

[JohnH]

the guys at work are fed up with them and are getting new saddles. Weaver is taking care of the problam but there tired of the recalls.

 

[treemandan]

the guys at work are fed up with them and are getting new saddles. Weaver is taking care of the problam but there tired of the recalls.

I was just about to say the exact same thing!:msp_sneaky: ( HEY GOOD SMILEY DARRIN)
Did you get new Cougars or different?

So they sent me the form to fill out but its like they are dumping it all on me. They want me to sign off before they send the stuff and they want to send it to me so I can have the luxury of fixing it myself. I told them that I was in way qualified to handle anything like that ( see avatar pic) and could they just send everything to the store; you know to place where Dave said " you should buy this saddle!"?
Hey, bubbas, its all bets off here and its all bets off there and that's all the time if you know what I mean so if feelings have to be hurt then I am in. Its not like I am being a prick wack job like I am around here with you nuts but there is only so much I can and will do. There is no way I will just let a company like that email me this and expect me to eat it up while they push a button to sign off.
Anyway, without to much more... I am starting a thread about unmarked devices right up front.

 

[JohnH]

I never had one I have a Master classic by Buck. I not a fan of alumimnin saddles. I don't think i spelt that right. Steel does't break.

 

[NCTREE]

The Cougar saddle is a relatively cheap saddle compared to it's counterparts like the buckingham glide. I guess it's the age old saying "you get what you pay for." When it comes to safety gear their is no compromising in quality for the benefit of saving a few bucks.

I put my barely used glide up for sale the other day, I'm looking at getting the ergovation. I have a person interested in buying this saddle and in our conversation he asked me if I had any used climbing line I want to sell.:jawdrop: I said "buddy you don't want to do that , you have no idea what was done to that rope, just spend the money and buy a new one." I just might have save him from a world of hurt.

 

[treemandan]

The Cougar saddle is a relatively cheap saddle compared to it's counterparts like the buckingham glide. I guess it's the age old saying "you get what you pay for." When it comes to safety gear their is no compromising in quality for the benefit of saving a few bucks.

I put my barely used glide up for sale the other day, I'm looking at getting the ergovation. I have a person interested in buying this saddle and in our conversation he asked me if I had any used climbing line I want to sell.:jawdrop: I said "buddy you don't want to do that , you have no idea what was done to that rope, just spend the money and buy a new one." I just might have save him from a world of hurt.

Yes its true I wondered about the low price, looks as though I need not wonder no more. The price of proper rings would have brought the saddle's price right up to the competion's.

 

[NCTREE]

I'm not saying the rings are the only cause for the cheaper price but seems they didn't put that much time and thought into buliding these saddles.

 

[Scrat]

The Cougar saddle is a relatively cheap saddle compared to it's counterparts like the buckingham glide. I guess it's the age old saying "you get what you pay for." When it comes to safety gear their is no compromising in quality for the benefit of saving a few bucks.

I put my barely used glide up for sale the other day, I'm looking at getting the ergovation. I have a person interested in buying this saddle and in our conversation he asked me if I had any used climbing line I want to sell.:jawdrop: I said "buddy you don't want to do that , you have no idea what was done to that rope, just spend the money and buy a new one." I just might have save him from a world of hurt.

Kinda funny you warned him about rope and selling him a used saddle. you quote-

"jawdrop: I said "buddy you don't want to do that , you have no idea what was done to that rope, just spend the money and buy a new one."

Replace the word 'rope' with 'saddle' and you know what i mean.

My point to this is you don't know if a climbline has been used for rigging and shock loaded of if a saddle has arrested a fall. So when buying used gear, if venturing down that road, you really need to know who you are buying it from and trust their honesty and intergrity or save up and buy new knowing the history of that gear starts with you.

Nothing personal NCTREE, from your posts you seem like a great guy. I'm just putting the thought out there so others "think about out it before buying used gear and assume it is safe". I agree with you and wouldn't buy a used rope for life support PERIOD.

 

[treemandan]

I'm not saying the rings are the only cause for the cheaper price but seems they didn't put that much time and thought into buliding these saddles.

I am saying that is they used good rings then they would have had to bring the price up to their competitors. By saving the pennies they did they were able to put the saddle on the market and beat their competitors. Sound familiar?
I think they put a lot of thought into the saddle and truthfully its well designed piece. They scrimped on the cost of material.

 

[treemandan]

Kinda funny you warned him about rope and selling him a used saddle. you quote-

"jawdrop: I said "buddy you don't want to do that , you have no idea what was done to that rope, just spend the money and buy a new one."

Replace the word 'rope' with 'saddle' and you know what i mean.

My point to this is you don't know if a climbline has been used for rigging and shock loaded of if a saddle has arrested a fall. So when buying used gear, if venturing down that road, you really need to know who you are buying it from and trust their honesty and intergrity or save up and buy new knowing the history of that gear starts with you.

Nothing personal NCTREE, from your posts you seem like a great guy. I'm just putting the thought out there so others "think about out it before buying used gear and assume it is safe". I agree with you and wouldn't buy a used rope for life support PERIOD.

Used rope is not so scary if you know how to inspect it. Not that I buy used gear but I use used gear, some my own, some other people's gear.

 

[Scrat]

Used rope is not so scary if you know how to inspect it. Not that I buy used gear but I use used gear, some my own, some other people's gear.

Point well taken, and I have purchased and used certain previously owned gear, but i just put it out there for those with less experience in proper inspection skills who read in this section. Don't want a new guy, or anybody getting hurt just to save a few bucks is all. As far as the saddle that started this thread, I was considering it for my Daughter and that is NOT happening now. She will get the Seqouia without a doubt.

I think it is great Sherrill Tree is offering support on this issue even if you didn't purchase the saddle from them.

 

[beastmaster]

I have a nice Weaver Cougar saddle for sale. Slightly used. New O rings available. PM me if interested. beastmaster

 

[NCTREE]

Kinda funny you warned him about rope and selling him a used saddle. you quote-

"jawdrop: I said "buddy you don't want to do that , you have no idea what was done to that rope, just spend the money and buy a new one."

Replace the word 'rope' with 'saddle' and you know what i mean.

My point to this is you don't know if a climbline has been used for rigging and shock loaded of if a saddle has arrested a fall. So when buying used gear, if venturing down that road, you really need to know who you are buying it from and trust their honesty and intergrity or save up and buy new knowing the history of that gear starts with you.

Nothing personal NCTREE, from your posts you seem like a great guy. I'm just putting the thought out there so others "think about out it before buying used gear and assume it is safe". I agree with you and wouldn't buy a used rope for life support PERIOD.

Yeah you have a point there and I will make it perfectly clear to him that their is no guarantee on condition and safety of the rope bridge. I will guarantee the saddle itself is in excellent condition. I will also make clear that he should inspect the rope bridge and consider purchasing a new bridge to be on the safe side. I feel though the saddle is in perfect working condition as is, just want to cover my own ass and his. Thanks for making that clear to me.

 

[NCTREE]

I am saying that is they used good rings then they would have had to bring the price up to their competitors. By saving the pennies they did they were able to put the saddle on the market and beat their competitors. Sound familiar?
I think they put a lot of thought into the saddle and truthfully its well designed piece. They scrimped on the cost of material.

My impression of the cougar saddle is they copied off the glide saddle. If that is the case then their wasn't much time and thought put into it. Yes they did scrimp on cost of material to make it cheaper and more competitive to other saddles.