Moving to australia

[Ms2004life]

So my girlfriend and i maybe moving to austalia, mudgee a wine making area. And i'm wondering about sending treeclimbing gear over is there anyone that can tell me whether its better to send from new zealand or buy new when im over there what with quarrantines and whatnot? And if they know of good tree companies in the area?

 

[imagineero]

Hi mate,
Feel free to contact me if you need a hand with anything - I live in sydney and run a small tree company here, did a year in forestry in NZ also. Mudgee is a quiet little town, it wouldn't be my first choice if I was coming to aus. Rents aren't that cheap, there isn't a lot to do, and wages are pretty basic. You'll need a car to get around. There's a bit of forestry nearby, but you need tickets to get into it which is $$$ and time. The pay isn't that great once your in the door either. There is seasonal work doing firewood to service the nearby blue mountains area, but again not great $.

What's your situation, are you a climber/forestry/?? Might be able to give you a hand getting started with a bit of casual work with some mates if you need it.

Regarding gear, depends what you have. I'd probably sell your saws in NZ where they'll get good $, and buy in aus where you can probably get better stuff for less. If you can't get a good price, bring them along though. Be sure and clean your boots etc, before bringing them, and when asked if you ahve been in rural areas, farms, or have ever walked on grass or touched dirt in your life be sure to answer 'no' with a very straight face. Worst case you have to pay to have your stuff microwaved. Not sure what other gear you've got, bring harness etc, decide on your ropes on a case by case basis. You can get 50mm of poison ivy 11.7mm over here for about $200.

Feel free to PM me if you need someone to give you a hand on this side.

Shaun

 

[Ms2004life]

Wow, mudgee sounds dreamy hahaha. Thanks for the info man. Good stuff to know you may have swayed the decision a little, i am a climber with the odd delving into logging. Yeah i have all climbing gear and rigging gear, spurs etc. was about to throw my boots anyway so might hold on to them till we leave, if we leave. Mmmm my saws guess i'll sell em seems easier.... Love my saws. I will definitely get a hold once i know whats doin. Loved your rigging thread by the way used that on 9 40m gums we dimantled a couple of weeks back worked awesome over a house a boat and a shed full of vintage cars, glad it worked.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Hi mate,
Feel free to contact me if you need a hand with anything - I live in sydney and run a small tree company here, did a year in forestry in NZ also. Mudgee is a quiet little town, it wouldn't be my first choice if I was coming to aus. Rents aren't that cheap, there isn't a lot to do, and wages are pretty basic. You'll need a car to get around. There's a bit of forestry nearby, but you need tickets to get into it which is $$$ and time. The pay isn't that great once your in the door either. There is seasonal work doing firewood to service the nearby blue mountains area, but again not great $.

What's your situation, are you a climber/forestry/?? Might be able to give you a hand getting started with a bit of casual work with some mates if you need it.

Regarding gear, depends what you have. I'd probably sell your saws in NZ where they'll get good $, and buy in aus where you can probably get better stuff for less. If you can't get a good price, bring them along though. Be sure and clean your boots etc, before bringing them, and when asked if you ahve been in rural areas, farms, or have ever walked on grass or touched dirt in your life be sure to answer 'no' with a very straight face. Worst case you have to pay to have your stuff microwaved. Not sure what other gear you've got, bring harness etc, decide on your ropes on a case by case basis. You can get 50mm of poison ivy 11.7mm over here for about $200.

Feel free to PM me if you need someone to give you a hand on this side.

Shaun

You can't bring stuff from NZ into AUS??

 

[treemandan]

You can't bring stuff from NZ into AUS??

They will be travelling in a fried out kombi... on a hippy trail with a head full of zombi.

 

[treemandan]

And what's with the short shorts and combat boots?:msp_scared:

 

[tramp bushler]

You guys down under will please pardon our ignorance. Sounds more stringent between the 2 country's than the U.S.and Canada or Mexico.

Course y'all Don't have NAFTA. do you.

What lattitude is N.Z.??

 

[imagineero]

NZ's still a fairly moderate country where common sense applies for the most part, especially the south island. Aus has unfortunately become a nanny state. Through some combination of apathy and the structure of our government which makes it difficult to get involved, we've allowed our civil rights to be eroded to the point where civil rights really aren't even an issue any more. The big question on everyones mind is "Am I going to get in trouble for this?". We've ended up with some kind of false democracy. The kind where it seems like you gave consent to be taken up the ass without lubricant and have agreed to smile all the while, because it was just easier that way.

Over the years, the flow of those coming in has remained about the same, but the flow of those leaving has increased steadily. Only immigrants can afford to buy houses nowadays, so the easiest option for a lot of australians is to immigrate themselves. I don't live in a fancy suburb... it used to be inhabited mainly by heroin addicts. It's still a very low class neighbourhood, but a 3 bedroom brick house on a small block goes for about $800,000~$900,000. For young people, by the time you get up a 10% deposit the goal posts will have shifted. You won't be done paying it off before you hit the grave. Add on to that the taxes taxes taxes and high cost of living generally, the red tape restrictive environment and limited freedoms, and you start to wonder what exactly is lucky about the lucky country ;-)

Shaun

Shaun

 

[Ms2004life]

Oh stop it your selling it to well!! My girlfriend flys over to have an interview on monday, we haven't decided on it yet. I've gone from busy to manic another company is getting us to freelance for them as well as our own work so the decision gets harder but i'm keen for a change and to climb somewhere else on other trees in a different country and i love gums to climb and work in over here (one of the few that do)

 

[tramp bushler]

What's a gum tree look like? ??

 

[Ms2004life]

Its gotta trunk and branches with leaves on them hahaha, just teasing TB there are about 700 species so varied but google them and goto images mate beautiful and sometime massive i think the biggest one recorded is like 99.6 metres tall there some good stuff on youtube on them too

 

[tramp bushler]

Wow, that's HUMUNGUS. even by Alaska standards.

 

[tramp bushler]

Well I see its 57 degrees f in Auckland and that its at latitude 42 South. What makes it so cool that close to the equator? ?

This is the ask a silly question hour isn't it?

 

[Ms2004life]

Nah it aint!!! Its another world of trees and tree climbing adventures i grew up in papua. Ew guinea, there average temp there was 30 degrees so it aint to much of a stretch. A beautiful country with fantastic landscape australia!!

 

[imagineero]

Well I see its 57 degrees f in Auckland and that its at latitude 42 South. What makes it so cool that close to the equator? ?

This is the ask a silly question hour isn't it?

They get a lot of crazy weather in NZ, especially in the far south island. It's the take off point for most people heading to antarctica, and they get the weather in return. You don't want to go jumping in the ocean far south.

The other thing to bear in mind is that we're in the southern hemisphere here... so even though it's summer heading into fall for you guys, it's winter heading into spring for us right now ;-)

Shaun

 

[imagineero]

Oh stop it your selling it to well!! My girlfriend flys over to have an interview on monday, we haven't decided on it yet. I've gone from busy to manic another company is getting us to freelance for them as well as our own work so the decision gets harder but i'm keen for a change and to climb somewhere else on other trees in a different country and i love gums to climb and work in over here (one of the few that do)

If you can swing it, I'd suggest working in or close to a capital city. Wages are higher, and the cost of living isn't really that much more. Take home pay for a lot of grounding type jobs in aus is about $600~$650/week after tax. If you're out in the sticks rent on a house is likely to be $300+, and nobody wants to share a house in the country so you're footing the bill yourself.... plus utilities. You'll also need a car for yourself, and maybe another for the missus because there's no public transport in the countryside. You can get by for sure, but you won't be putting any money away after all your outgoings (food, utilities, petrol, rego etc)

If you can manage to live in or near to the city, then the cost of living is fairly similar. I'm paying $380/wk for a 2 bedroom place with a garage, but not in a great suburb. You can get a place without a garage for about $320. Closer to the city prices go up. I live with my GF, and we rent out our spare room so we end up paying about $230/wk for the two of us which is pretty mangeable. I have a car, truck and a couple bikes. The missus trains it to work, we are only 2 mins from the station.

Pay for climbers is considerably better in the city. You can land a full time gig for about $1000/wk after tax if that's what you like doing, or if you have your own gear and basic insurance ($500/year) you can do contract work for about $450/day. You might not get a lot of work, but you don't need much at that rate. The real money is in doing your own jobs. You can hire casual groundies and contract chippers and put $800~$1000 in your pocket on most jobs. A lot of climbers do some of their own work, and some contract... barter for chipping against climbing, and share groundies. You can eke out a pretty comfortable existence this way, working only 2 or 3 days a week and taking home quite good money, pretty easily making in a day what a lot of guys make in a week.

Shaun

 

[Ms2004life]

Thanks alot for the info shaun. Awesome, unfortunately it would be mudgee or nothing as far as options cause it's winemaking that'll be the primary focus for going as my girl has the job offer. And its my turn to back her career. Maybe i'll be a kept man for a while