MS261 VS MS261 C-M Comparison

[Outlaw5.0]

Nope, we sling it at guys from Michigan.

Hey some of us Michigan guys are ok.

 

[bryanr2]

Very interesting thread......

Randy,
Clearly you have figured out the 261/ 261c (big surprise there). Im curious about your thoughts on the 50cc shootout of the big three sometime back when my 2153 beat the 261 and the 550..... how do you think your new 261 would fair today if we did the comparison all over? Speak plain man, don't hold nothing back- wont hurt my feelings none..... just want your thoughts. opcorn: I'd like to see this saw run against a good 60cc saw (as an experiment strictly for knowledge) say a well built 359:msp_wub:.

And I reckon I'll be buying one of these to keep my new 044 company.

 

[Hedgerow]

I think the game changer here, is the fact good gains were to be had and the good characteristics of the strato system were left in tact...
Before, it was standard OP to gut the intake tract...
Now there's a snotty saw AND benefits of a working strato design...

 

[Mastermind]

I could probably help you out with a cylinder

I really appreciate that. I've got a new OEM top end already.

I think the guy in Norway has some strong words about that sentence.

Without a doubt.

Very interesting thread......

Randy,
Clearly you have figured out the 261/ 261c (big surprise there). Im curious about your thoughts on the 50cc shootout of the big three sometime back when my 2153 beat the 261 and the 550..... how do you think your new 261 would fair today if we did the comparison all over? Speak plain man, don't hold nothing back- wont hurt my feelings none..... just want your thoughts. opcorn: I'd like to see this saw run against a good 60cc saw (as an experiment strictly for knowledge) say a well built 359:msp_wub:.

And I reckon I'll be buying one of these to keep my new 044 company.

I'll be porting a OE 346XP in a few days. I already know the 261 as done here will take the 550 in this size wood. I think the 346XP will lose to it as well. It's less than a half second behind Jon's finger ported, 044 carbed 026 now.

I think the game changer here, is the fact good gains were to be had and the good characteristics of the strato system were left in tact...
Before, it was standard OP to gut the intake tract...
Now there's a snotty saw AND benefits of a working strato design...

I like stratified saws. :cool2:

 

[Hedgerow]

I really appreciate that. I've got a new OEM top end already.



Without a doubt.



I'll be porting a OE 346XP in a few days. I already know the 261 as done here will take the 550 in this size wood. I think the 346XP will lose to it as well. It's less than a half second behind Jon's finger ported, 044 carbed 026 now.



I like stratified saws. :cool2:

Why???

 

[wap13]

The latest and greatest version of randys OE 261 port job is just as strong, not that out dated thing you have:taped:
:big_smile:

Dont remind me.....

 

[Walt41]

Looks like Randy has turned impossible into I'm possible

 

[Mastermind]

Why???

Because they are the future. We can either learn to make them run like we want to see them running, or be left out.

 

[Mastermind]

Dont remind me.....

The way we were doing the 261 made a great running saw, with a wide torque band. Very easy to use in the woods, and also one that I never had any complaints on. We've just found a way to make them stronger yet.

 

[john_bud]

Because they are the future. We can either learn to make them run like we want to see them running, or be left out.

Very true. New tech is hard to improve on initially, but once figured out it's usually better than the old way. Looks like you found the latest and greatest recipe.

How long till new tech 50cc saws perform at the same level as old tech 70cc saws? (While sipping fuel like old 40cc saws!)

 

[Mastermind]

Very true. New tech is hard to improve on initially, but once figured out it's usually better than the old way. Looks like you found the latest and greatest recipe.

How long till new tech 50cc saws perform at the same level as old tech 70cc saws? (While sipping fuel like old 40cc saws!)

With a square chain, this 50cc saw tied a muffler modded 372 in that same cant.......

 

[old-cat]

With a square chain, this 50cc saw tied a muffler modded 372 in that same cant.......

My stop watch said the 70cc lost:msp_ohmy:

 

[Mastermind]

My stop watch said the 70cc lost:msp_ohmy:

Well I didn't want to brag. :msp_unsure:

 

[Trx250r180]

My stop watch said the 70cc lost:msp_ohmy:

Doesn't surprise me a 50cc stihl can hang with a 70cc husky :jester:

 

[john_bud]

Well I didn't want to brag. :msp_unsure:

Then we will have to brag for you!

 

[old-cat]

It's happy customers that make a saw builder successful

 

[F.W.P.T]

I think the game changer here, is the fact good gains were to be had and the good characteristics of the strato system were left in tact...
Before, it was standard OP to gut the intake tract...
Now there's a snotty saw AND benefits of a working strato design...

I like stratified saws. :cool2:

Because they are the future. We can either learn to make them run like we want to see them running, or be left out.

The way we were doing the 261 made a great running saw, with a wide torque band. Very easy to use in the woods, and also one that I never had any complaints on. We've just found a way to make them stronger yet.

I was just wonderin if you have come up with a new recipe for the 372 xt keeping the strat functioning?? Btw that new saw is sick!! Keep up the great work!!

 

[wap13]

The way we were doing the 261 made a great running saw, with a wide torque band. Very easy to use in the woods, and also one that I never had any complaints on. We've just found a way to make them stronger yet.

No complaints here, I love the 261 you did for me. But I am always looking for more....

I know it may be hard (or impossible) to answer but is there any way to quantify how much stronger they new method of porting these saws is? Is it a night and day kind of thing or is it just a little stronger?

I just cant imagine a 50cc saw getting much stronger than the 261 I have now is and still be a "working" saw. Then again I have been wrong before...

 

[Mastermind]

I was just wonderin if you have come up with a new recipe for the 372 xt keeping the strat functioning?? Btw that new saw is sick!! Keep up the great work!!

The first video in this thread is of a fully stratified, ported 372XT.....I never gut those.

No complaints here, I love the 261 you did for me. But I am always looking for more....

I know it may be hard (or impossible) to answer but is there any way to quantify how much stronger they new method of porting these saws is? Is it a night and day kind of thing or is it just a little stronger?

I just cant imagine a 50cc saw getting much stronger than the 261 I have now is and still be a "working" saw. Then again I have been wrong before...

It was a couple of seconds faster in this cant.......

 

[MindFork]

I just cant imagine a 50cc saw getting much stronger than the 261 I have now is and still be a "working" saw. Then again I have been wrong before...

Dare to dream