Neck Lanyard.......how many climbers use these? How did you build it? Thughts?

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I don't see a problem with it as i climb full srt on a uni and i can see the use for one. Just make sure it is break away and keep it tucked away when not being used. Don't listen to the negativity and learn your own way to climb, glad i never listened to it or i'd still be Ddrt on a prussik like a retard

G'Day,
Tucking it away when not in use is some good advise. I should do better at putting my visor down on the helmet as well. You Aussies always are one of the sharper tools in the shed. It is elastic and would probably leave a pretty good hickey if you tired to hang yourself with it but other than that, not much of a threat.
Don't much listen to all the negativity any more, it is kind of like being around a fault finding mother-in-law, you learn to take the good with the bad.
No worries mate :msp_biggrin:
 
Can you use this for a tie in point? I dunno- " neck lanyard"- go ahead and sound it out, sounds like pain, some kind of weird sex thing. And to think of it I do believe you could have just bought one at the freaking sporting goods store for a dollar instead of using 20k tensile stable braid to fabricate this thing.
Now you are allright with me , I am only busting yer balls fer fun and while the whole " neck lanyard" thing is just to much for a twisted mind like mine to ignore I gotta say I do believe the concept is a no no in the industry and I think one of these days its gonna get caught on something and rip yer head off or at least leave you wishing it had. Even those shoelace key chains seem a bad idea to me in this day and age. And everybody else is just having fun with you so please don't go getting all old and ornery all set to do something somebody that somebody told you was a bad idea, I know that is fun to do but this is not something to wear in any capacity really but this equipment sure is interesting to mess with huh? Just don't go using yer 12 gauge to set a line OK? And I will tell you something else: while I admit that an AR-15 is one hell of great toy I also admit that it is only that. A guy needs one of them like he needs a lanyard around his neck.
 
H or Y style ALICE suspenders, I use em on occasion. Mod those for your croll. Pg. 94 of the 2012 Sherrill master catalog has an illustration using webbing and a delta link to mount a croll. Put in a slider from an old duffel bag strap to adjust for different weight clothes. Split ring from a key chain fob could be a breakaway if desired.
Thing with suspenders and straps high on the body, even flat and not encircling the neck, they grab stuff that otherwise would brush past. Had an apple twig snake along a suspender strap and try to remove my eye. Foreign matter is always trying to jump in our eye sockets. Somethings increase the likelihood.
Office workers have breakaways on their ID lanyards... lets think about this.

Yes, they are a little bulky and they change the dynamics of the job. It is easier to strap on my spikes since they hold up my saddle instead of cinching the waist buckle. I am constantly adjusting them while climbing either to loosen so I can reach over my head or to tighten to pull my saddle of my ass. If I am climbing without spikes I usually don't use them. I don't use a chest ascender, it is nice to keep a beener there to quickly stow a line.
 
.... put a lanyard around an upright side limb for stability, leaned away..
Since then, I have learned to make the friction under my feet increase by having my life line at an angle overhead instead of directly overhead; I now can also walk up near vertical side trunks ....
...... you need your rope going at a tangent to what you are climbing so you can lean back and walk up the far side, batman style.
Hey TrreeGuyHR, I see you are in Hood River, great place, grew up in Portland, loved skiing Mt. Hood. You are lucky to be there.
Still trying to understand completely how you hurt yourself and learn from your experience.
Can you explain a couple of things to me.... increasing the friction under your feet, and going at a tangent?
Also, where was the branch you put your lanyard on and where did you position your lanyard on that branch?

Hope you are doing well.
Thanks
 
When I first saw it used I thought the same thing as many here until I learned more about it. Now I use it all the time and find it extremely useful for my ascent and also holding my throw line rewind when I am setting up a new line in the tree.
I have learned from other climbers how to use it for tending the Rope Wrench during an ascent as well.
Thanks for the discussion as I learned a couple of things here.
Tucking it under my shirt when not in use so I don't get face slapped and another option as in this video.
SRT: DB Tree Rope Walker Kit - YouTube

I built mine after the design used by Joe Harris and Scott Sharpe of ATRAES (Arborist and Height Safety Equipment) and Vtio.
Demonstrated in this videoATRAES MicroFrog SRT System - YouTube
Photo http://www.atraes.com.au/images/P/MicroFrog-01.jpg

I used about 3 feet of 2mm elastic cord that will stretch to 2 to 3 times that size if needed. Tied with a double fisherman's and dressed with shrink tubing. The sheath webbing is from an ID lanyard purchased from a office store.
Risk assessment: You could probably get a good slap if it was pulled over your head.

I have a system similar to ATRAES MicroFrog set-up but use the Unicender in place of the hand ascender for quick changeover to descent.
3 minute Video with a boomerang toss at Tree climbing using a neck elastic to tend the chest ascender and assist in line placement - YouTube
or longer 12 minute video at Using neck elastic to tend Unicender - YouTube

As with everything tree climbing it what works best for you.

The 2mm elastic cord is difficult to find locally and I ended up purchasing about 100' online to save some time driving around. I will never use that much so if anyone is interested I would be happy to send you a few feet, no cost, just pm me your info and I will send it to you. (USA only)
 
I was going to post something about this, but all I can do is shake my head and laugh.
 
Hey TrreeGuyHR, I see you are in Hood River, great place, grew up in Portland, loved skiing Mt. Hood. You are lucky to be there.
Still trying to understand completely how you hurt yourself and learn from your experience.
Can you explain a couple of things to me.... increasing the friction under your feet, and going at a tangent?
Also, where was the branch you put your lanyard on and where did you position your lanyard on that branch?

Hope you are doing well.
Thanks

I have done most of my climbing in the last four years. A combination of experience and conditioning has greatly improved my technique, although I am a bit stubborn and tend to rely too much on strength (another story there).

The injury occurred because I wedged my foot in another, large fork in the big oak limb and also put a short lanyard around that upright side limb so I could get stable enough to work. The foot stayed behind when the smaller limb broke (well, for a long second or two :msp_scared:

What I mean about friction is changing my thinking to more of a rock climbing approach -- which emphasizes getting as much of the bottom of your foot on the surface you are climbing as you can. In a tree, you have the luxury of leaning back on your rope while also having a lanyard around the stem you are ascending (or the the limb you are walking out on). Then when you take the next step, the lanyard (already advanced) keeps you from sliding back on an angled or near-vertical or even vertical stem. We are talking about being in a multi-trunked tree here -- it is too exhausting on a single trunk, although I have used the "Batman" technique when I am going back into a tree, having left my life line in it on a pulley.

On a side limb when branch walking, the lanyard is mainly to keep you from swinging to the trunk if you lose your "foot grip". I usually climb with two steel core lanyards, a 12 and a 16 ft.; that way I can throw one or both around a limb or limbs (but not epicormic sprouts!) for stability when making a cut.

Of course, relying on foot friction works better on dry bark. You can still do it on pine, fir, or oak, but not something like birch or maple when wet. I try to avoid working in those trees when wet, as it is slower but can still be done. It means having to go up to your tie-in and then back down each side trunk from the top, if there aren't enough side limbs to work your way up from the middle or bottom by throwing a lanyard through one crotch after another and pulling yourself up. That is how I used to climb, dry or wet conditions.

I still rely solely on a Blakes, except for a high tie-in, in which case I will often set a line and climb it with a pair of jumars on webbing, and then switch to a second line to work.

I'll stop there...
 
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I climb SRT almost everyday. I experimented early on with a chest croll when I first started trying SRT. I tryed various ways to advance my croll. I had my best results with a small bungee hooked to the chin strap of my helmet then to the croll. In the end I found that whole system a pain in the rear and to gear intensive to use for a working method. I use the rads day in day out for my SRT. Even with that I hardly ever use the foot strap, preferring to footlock the rope on all but the longest ascends.
 
I was going to post something about this, but all I can do is shake my head and laugh.

Looks like Wesspur will be laughing too......all the way to the bank.


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For weekend warriors and newbies who are attracted by shiny things, they will probably sell some. As a production arborist, I would have no use for it. Too much gear to be dealing with.



Spoken like a young buck. As a 44 yr old production arborist, I like my shiny things, they make my day easier.
 
As a soon to be 48 year old production arborist, I still wouldn't use the system. Now the Wraptor is a different story. I could see using that type of system on the west coast climbing redwoods.
 
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