sawinredneck
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You can't beat a dealer like that! I like to badmouth the 290 and 455, just because, but for what they are it's hard to beat them!
Need help picking the correct saw for me.
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WadePatton
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do they let you load up the wood when you're done?
let us know what you come home with.
and remember, it ain't over until you understand squish and port... and i'm not talking about cheese and wine. :jester:
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not really though, a properly filed chain is the first thing to get good at.
let us know what you come home with.
and remember, it ain't over until you understand squish and port... and i'm not talking about cheese and wine. :jester:
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not really though, a properly filed chain is the first thing to get good at.
zogger
Tree Freak
uh oh!
----they are gonna let you test cut a buncha saws....you'll go in thinking 290 or 455, walk out with a 441 or 372....
hehehehehe good luck man, have fun!
----they are gonna let you test cut a buncha saws....you'll go in thinking 290 or 455, walk out with a 441 or 372....
hehehehehe good luck man, have fun!
lambs
Stihl crazy after all these years
You might want to consider looking for a Stihl 039 / 390 in the area. Same saw as the 290, same weight, but bigger engine (64 cc I think) and therefore more power. I bought mine for $250 gently used. I now have a 261 as well, which is a nicer pro saw, lighter and similar in hp to the 290, but the 039 is nothing to sneeze at. It's probably a half horse more power. Good value for the money without a weight gain over the 290 you're considering.
genesis5521
ArboristSite Operative
Think you found gold (a good dealer). Here's the invoice on my Stihl MS290. If you go with the MS290, print out my invoice and use it as "persuasion". Any STihl dealer should be able to match it.
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WadePatton
ArboristSite Guru
_slight diversion whilst OP plays at saw shop_
Don,
1st-you have to buy oil to get "extended" warranty?
2th (yeah that's twoth) could you get that "discount" w/o the plastic box?
just curious, as i'll probably never buy a (another) brand new saw (or a plastic box, nttawwt).
Don,
1st-you have to buy oil to get "extended" warranty?
2th (yeah that's twoth) could you get that "discount" w/o the plastic box?
just curious, as i'll probably never buy a (another) brand new saw (or a plastic box, nttawwt).
genesis5521
ArboristSite Operative
Hi Wade:
1) Yea. Ya gotta buy the oil to get the extended warranty.
2) I'm not sure. But if the carrying case is all you didn't want (and you wanted everything else on my invoice) I think the dealer should be willing to offer some kind of discount. The more ya spend the more leeway the dealers has to play with. If you just wanted the saw and oil, ask the dealer to "throw in" an extra chain at no charge.
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WadePatton
ArboristSite Guru
diversion cont'd
Yeah, it just looks to me like the most margin is in that injection molded plastic box. I'll wager there's more money in moving it around by the time the dealer gets it than materials and labor in the actual making thereof. nothing wrong with that.
similar (but not) to the note on your invoice is the note on the invoice I just opened:
CUSTOMER HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE SAFETY BENEFIT OF A KICKBACK REDUCING BAR AND -OR CHAIN, BUT REQUEST A MORE AGGRESSIVE TYPE.
which initially brought a chuckle as it was from a _pro_ supply house, was for 84 and 98 link 3/8 square-ground chains (with also 8-pin sprokets), and iirc we had no such discussion. but then i think holy ****, is this a state or federal (!!!) law? eff me runnin.
BUT THAT brings up and EXCELLENT tie-in to the OP's thread: While I'd hate to see it reduced to a law, but wouldn't it be a great idea for these pro-shops with cutting areas/demo saws to DEMONSTRATE kickback by inducing it and explaining how to avoid it. They could also show the difference in "safety b/c" kickback and big dog (my term) kickback. This also would illustrate how inertial chain brakes work and are released.
The more a cutter understands it, the better he can appreciate the danger and manage his cutting to avoid it I say. Without being overly afraid of it. Paranoia and fear should be avoided, knowledge and experience gained at the pro-shop would FAR EXCEED these mandated warnings.
Yeah, it just looks to me like the most margin is in that injection molded plastic box. I'll wager there's more money in moving it around by the time the dealer gets it than materials and labor in the actual making thereof. nothing wrong with that.
similar (but not) to the note on your invoice is the note on the invoice I just opened:
CUSTOMER HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE SAFETY BENEFIT OF A KICKBACK REDUCING BAR AND -OR CHAIN, BUT REQUEST A MORE AGGRESSIVE TYPE.
which initially brought a chuckle as it was from a _pro_ supply house, was for 84 and 98 link 3/8 square-ground chains (with also 8-pin sprokets), and iirc we had no such discussion. but then i think holy ****, is this a state or federal (!!!) law? eff me runnin.
BUT THAT brings up and EXCELLENT tie-in to the OP's thread: While I'd hate to see it reduced to a law, but wouldn't it be a great idea for these pro-shops with cutting areas/demo saws to DEMONSTRATE kickback by inducing it and explaining how to avoid it. They could also show the difference in "safety b/c" kickback and big dog (my term) kickback. This also would illustrate how inertial chain brakes work and are released.
The more a cutter understands it, the better he can appreciate the danger and manage his cutting to avoid it I say. Without being overly afraid of it. Paranoia and fear should be avoided, knowledge and experience gained at the pro-shop would FAR EXCEED these mandated warnings.
CharlieG
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Zero Gravity
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Just go over to the Husky dealer on Thumb Lake road and he will set up up. He has the complete Husky line and is very good on prices. I bought a saw from him and would do it again in a minute.
Zero Gravity
I have a lot of saws, but the one that always goes with me is the Stihl ms260 pro. I picked this saw up at a pawn shop for $220 and have used it exclusively since I bought it. I also agree with getting a second saw as I have gotten one stuck before. My second saw is a Stihl ms441 which is expensive but any cheap craigslist or pawn shop saw would do.
Good Taste..
Stihl 260, Stihl 441 and Toyota Tacoma..
I would go with the best you can afford, no regrets..
The Stihl 261 with a 18"B&C would be a great one saw package for what you describe..
Dealers usually give good advice, my locals do, get educated as you shop..
Have fun on your selection..
Cheers..
The Stihl 261 with a 18"B&C would be a great one saw package for what you describe..
Dealers usually give good advice, my locals do, get educated as you shop..
Have fun on your selection..
Cheers..
homelitejim
Full of Scrap
That is elk camp. In the full ford is my neighbor, I cut his wood for him as all he has is a ms170, the toyota belongs to my friend Mike, my tahoe is to the left. The elk were really on the move so left a bit of time to fall some timber.
PEKS, from your pic...are you running stock chain that came with the 261? Those are wood shavings, not saw dust, what kind of tree did that come from? Sorry, don't know all my trees from the bark.
Sagetown
Farmer and a STIHL
There are 3 types of wood residue produced from a saw chain, that I know of.
1. sawdust from a dull chain
2. small wood chips produced by sharp chain in hardwoods.
3. wood ribbons, produced from softwoods. They are can be longer than those in the pic, and curly like ribbons.
VTWoodchuck
ArboristSite Operative
Those are "noodles" in that pic. He was cutting those rounds down to size, ie lengthwise not crosscut.
Sagetown
Farmer and a STIHL
Thanks VTWoodchuck: I'm not familiar with lenght cuts, and noticed in the pic that those noodles looked different than the ribbons I've seen, and was wondering "What kind of wood does that?".
