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It is certainly one of the red oaks. I think I'd agree with pin oak. The bark is really too smooth on a tree that big to be most others. It could be northern red oak, but I would expect a little deeper pattern in the bark and a cleaner log...
 
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these guys are right on ... red oak or pin oak.... both grow huge like that and have that type of bark....
 
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There are three Maples in my backyard, two Swamp Maples, and one Broad Leaf Maple (or Shade Maple) ... so I've been told. Been here for 14 years now, but don't know the proper common names of these threes!? Any thoughts on what they are? As you can see, a major branch was close cut from Swamp Maple 1 by the previous owner but seems to continue to grow. Leaves from the swamps are small and sharp, huge and less sharp from the shade. There is a stream about 150' from these trees, with heavy clay soil ... drainage sucks big time.

A couple more questions;
When measuring a tree diameter, at what height above grade is it measured? (as on a survey map)
What is the best way to ID a Sugar Maple? ... Summer and Winter.

Thanks :msp_wink:
 
Here's a good ID site that shows the winter twig.
species list
If you can find any leaves on the ground the sugar maple will have a U shaped notch.
Trees are generally measured at Diameter at Breast Height 4' above grade.
Phil
 
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silver (white) maples do have smaller sharp leaves. but the main "give away" is that the leaf has five points (3 larger, 2 smaller) on it, the bark is light in color, and the leaf underside has a "silver" color or whitish color . this silver part of the leaf is soft and "dusty" at times. these trees are highly resilient. i ve seen them cut to grade and they just dont die here. the swamp maple has a trident pointed leaf ( its called the red maple in some regions ). it is highly resilient just like the silver maple. the sugar maple leaf is similar to the swamp maple leaf but the key difference is that it has 2 additional smaller points on the stem side. its like the leaf on the flag of Canada. this is the sugar maple. another key thing that id's the sugar maple is the presence of clear sap. as far as measuring tree diameter-- i m not sure if this is technically correct for survey mapping or whatever.... but when i measure i go just above the flare roots where my saw is going to go. -- i think its worth noting that some trees have different common names in different regions.
 

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