Neighbor chopped down 10 Doug. firs! 120 ft high, 44 inches accross base without per

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O.K I need a little insight please. Tomorrow I have to go put a monetary value on 10 Douglas firs that were cut down without permission on my clients property. These were huge beautiful trees and my client is threatening litigation.
I have been hired to assess the loss of property value.
Any help would be appreciated?
How much should I charge?
My usual is 130.00 an hour.
 
O.K I need a little insight please. I have been hired to assess the loss of property value. .
Learn to do the service you are selling before you sell it. Your compensation should be the last of your concerns.
 
I agree with Treeseer. Dont guess at a price especially if you might end up in a court room defending your guess. Refer your client to someone qualified to do the estimate and ask that person how they come up with the price.
 
O.K.
A large oak professionally pruned can add 10,000 to the value of the property.
Douglas fir 5,000

I.E.
What additional value has been raped from the property?
Erosion control?
cooling property?
aesthetic value??

I won't know until I arrive there. I have been doing this for years I guess I was just looking for some of your prognosis's. Maybe you haven't done that before or if you would like share some of your experience.

Grass Valley, CA
 
I would say the first step would be to determine whether the trees should be valued for timber or as landscape trees.

Wait, I just reread your post. You are looking for change in property value not the value of the trees per sey? That makes things a little more complicated. The best way I see is to look at your clients property value prior to removal of said trees and then the value of comparable properties that are similar to what the current state of your clients property is in. This can be very difficult to establish because of all the variables.

Good luck.
 
Well, I ain't no property value "Professional Expert" but, you already have a predetermined value of the property with the tress, right?. Well, just get a new appraisal of the property without the trees. This should bring you pretty close to what you want if the last appraisal isn't from a wayback time. You may have to do some cyphorin' with depreciation, current tax rates etc. but it should get you close. . . Right???
 
don't use trunk formula if your client wants to deduct the loss on their taxes.

I use cost of cure most of the time these days.

re valuews here are a few. I don't look at aesthetic values much.

Erosion control. By intercepting precipitation, and also through their network of feeder roots near the surface, these trees Through the activity of microorganisms attached to and among these roots, they build the soil resource.

Wind and Light Control. By deflecting, obstructing and filtering the wind, they moderate the climate for this property. This effect also benefits the nearby community.

Pollution and Noise Abatement. Gaseous and particulate pollution is intercepted by the leaves and bark, and buffered by the rootzone. The sound of traffic and other urban activity is muffled.

Ecosystem values. By attracting, sheltering and feeding wildlife, these trees are the keystone species in the local ecosystem. Their contributions have a ripple effect through the community of songbirds and small mammals, and many smaller species that often escape human notice.

Shade. The temperature under large trees is often more than ten degrees cooler than in the open. A nearby property which lost all its shade trees had a 67% increase in cooling costs.

Transpirational Cooling. A mature tree can transpire over 200 gallons of water through its leaves per day. The evaporation of this water into vapor has a considerable cooling effect, and by recycling the water before it gets to the stream, the trees save on community stormwater control costs.

Screening Undesirable Views. The incoming neighborhood lessens the privacy of the Annunziata property, so the trees deliver a new contribution.
 
Guy, shouldn't the guilty party be liable for up to triple damages?

Those trees could easily appraise at $5000 per tree, it sounds like.

Sounds like hiring an attorney experienced in these matters is the way to go.
 
in CA. your client is entitled to the cost of restoring their prop. to the condition it was before the trees were removed!!

so

#1 find out what it will cost to buy new trees of the same size and condition and have them moved to the location and installed and all other necessary work to repair the prop to the condition it was before the trespass happened

#2 it takes allot time and the # will be huge so make shore the person that did this has deep pockets as you will win hands down in court but you still need to get the $$$ out of them
 
some judges like RE loss, but most will look at arb appraisal.

Roger you are right, 'WA and CA both are triple damages states, according to Merullo. not an arbo's business to worry about, but useful in negotiation.

I once had to recite the entire trunk formula equation under cross examination. It was very hard to recall, and harder yet to justify, but in that case it worked, luckily for me.
 
O.K I need a little insight please. Tomorrow I have to go put a monetary value on 10 Douglas firs that were cut down without permission on my clients property. These were huge beautiful trees and my client is threatening litigation.
I have been hired to assess the loss of property value.
Any help would be appreciated?
How much should I charge?
My usual is 130.00 an hour.

just for sh&t and giggles,,, HOW???? did someone cut down that many big trees,, at one time,,, with out someone saying anything?????????????? 120 tall,, by 44" inch at the base,,,thats a lot of tree,,, times 10!!!!!
 
I'm curious to know, also.

I'm guessing the property owner was out of town while this happened. I'd like to know the rest of that story.


Mitch
 
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