OTG BOSTON
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wow
I can FEEL the love in here!!!!.png "Love :heart:")
I can FEEL the love in here!!!!
Never mind I want to keep it.....what to do?
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nitwit dolt
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Oak in peril
If you think a second opinion may help deal with your situation let me know. I 'am assuming that they live locally ( Cape Ann ). How the tree responds to the work you performed has much to do with it's health in general. If the tree was healthy before you started, it should be able to respond the the injuries. At this point, I'd say, all you can do is maintain it's vigor and monitor for any signs of stress. As far as spiking goes, were you wearing lineman gaffs or tree gaffs? What type of oak? A healthy red oak has pretty thick bark, so lineman spikes may not have done too much damage to the cambium. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
If you think a second opinion may help deal with your situation let me know. I 'am assuming that they live locally ( Cape Ann ). How the tree responds to the work you performed has much to do with it's health in general. If the tree was healthy before you started, it should be able to respond the the injuries. At this point, I'd say, all you can do is maintain it's vigor and monitor for any signs of stress. As far as spiking goes, were you wearing lineman gaffs or tree gaffs? What type of oak? A healthy red oak has pretty thick bark, so lineman spikes may not have done too much damage to the cambium. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
diltree
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Ol dirty....with a warm heartfelt apology; im impressed
(even though Jim probably deserved it):hmm3grin2orange:
(even though Jim probably deserved it):hmm3grin2orange:
Bermie
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Nice to see the love flowing again!
Good on you Oldirty, for stepping up and BB for accepting!
OK, lets go cut trees
Good on you Oldirty, for stepping up and BB for accepting!
OK, lets go cut trees
oldirty
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its a new year fellas. lol
reachtreeservi
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Sounds like the husband needs to learn how to control his wife. If they signed a contract for removal , then whether they want the job completed or not,
they would get a bill for the full amount agreed upon before hand.
I'd document why the job was stopped ,draw up a risk assessment with your recommendations for full removal , have it noterized and keep a copy,
send it certified mail / return receipt requested.
And quit worrying about it. No matter what happens later, you'll be covered.
they would get a bill for the full amount agreed upon before hand.
I'd document why the job was stopped ,draw up a risk assessment with your recommendations for full removal , have it noterized and keep a copy,
send it certified mail / return receipt requested.
And quit worrying about it. No matter what happens later, you'll be covered.
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OTG BOSTON
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Boston Bull I think you did what you could and like many of us you did what the customer wanted.
I think this tree risk assessment thing is a bunch of bull####. I have gone to several seminars and heard "experts" and CA tell us this and that and at the end of the day, unless you are in a unique situation people really don't want to pay you what it takes to give you a full and complete risk assessment. I have seen many trees fail that you would not think they would fail but 100mph winds can do strange things to trees. A combination of rainy period followed by high winds can send many healthy trees to the ground.
And who in this business has not recommended a tree to be removed and the customer declined? Anybody??? It happens all the time. You can fill out your TRA forms and send letters and do all the jumping through hoops but at the end of the day, people like there trees regardless of condition. Now I am sure there are a few select arborists that give there recommendation and walk away. I am not saying I haven't walked away. But at the end of the day I am here to help the customer.
Does the tree come before the customer? Or does the customer pay the bill?
At the end of the day, I would say many guys in the industry can address the risk of the tree failing in about 20 minutes of studying the tree thoroughly. I am not taking anything away from doing core samples and using xrays and resistographs etc. etc.
At the end of the day, you can say this and that but healthy trees fail. Risky trees do not always fail in a timely fashion.
Bottom line, my customer like my input and thoughts but I ask them how much risk are they willing to accept.
Is there no risk after cabling and bracing? pruning?
I think this tree risk assessment thing is a bunch of bull####. I have gone to several seminars and heard "experts" and CA tell us this and that and at the end of the day, unless you are in a unique situation people really don't want to pay you what it takes to give you a full and complete risk assessment. I have seen many trees fail that you would not think they would fail but 100mph winds can do strange things to trees. A combination of rainy period followed by high winds can send many healthy trees to the ground.
And who in this business has not recommended a tree to be removed and the customer declined? Anybody??? It happens all the time. You can fill out your TRA forms and send letters and do all the jumping through hoops but at the end of the day, people like there trees regardless of condition. Now I am sure there are a few select arborists that give there recommendation and walk away. I am not saying I haven't walked away. But at the end of the day I am here to help the customer.
Does the tree come before the customer? Or does the customer pay the bill?
At the end of the day, I would say many guys in the industry can address the risk of the tree failing in about 20 minutes of studying the tree thoroughly. I am not taking anything away from doing core samples and using xrays and resistographs etc. etc.
At the end of the day, you can say this and that but healthy trees fail. Risky trees do not always fail in a timely fashion.
Bottom line, my customer like my input and thoughts but I ask them how much risk are they willing to accept.
Is there no risk after cabling and bracing? pruning?
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BostonBull
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This was done for a friend and not through the co. It was a healthy Red Oak (Q. Rubra). I had on tree gaffs. The tree is doing well it is in a pretty moist environment so it didnt have any drought stress from the summer.
BostonBull
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Hey havent seen you on in a while............you should stop up the shop sometime. Ill take you to look at the tree but its way up in Derry, NH.
Justice
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Hey BB. Just read this whole posting. tough spot, funny how homwowners change their minds and think you can just leave it "as is". Then you are left with that uneasy feeling of doing work not up to your personal standards.
I would probably have recomended bracing and cabling, and a ristograph test. That of course would be for my peace of mind. Without pictures it is almost impossible to say really.
I am sure you did everthing that they would let you.
I think it will do ok with the spiking. Won't look pretty but I am sure you will be the one who notices it the most.
Keep us updated and maybe some pictures?
I would probably have recomended bracing and cabling, and a ristograph test. That of course would be for my peace of mind. Without pictures it is almost impossible to say really.
I am sure you did everthing that they would let you.
I think it will do ok with the spiking. Won't look pretty but I am sure you will be the one who notices it the most.
Keep us updated and maybe some pictures?
BostonBull
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Ill try for some pics in the spring. The thing that bother me the most besides the spiking, is the fact that they took allot of the lower canopy off as well before telling me to stop.
Oh Well, I am sure the tree will be fine. I will be checking on it this spring/summer.
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