New CDL Rules in Ohio

[Grace Tree]

Does anyone have any information on new regs for Ohio CDL licenses? I've heard from a couple of people that 10,001 to 26,000 will now need to meet the same requirments as for hire intrastate motor carriers. That would mean carrying a physical card, as well as some other bullcarp that thought I'd never have to do again.
Any info?
Phil

 

[JohnH]

I know in Ma anything over 10001lbs you need a health card

 

[lxt]

I live on the PA/OH line pretty much & I have heard that there are some tough regulations coming....mostly to trailers & load securement though, I have to carry a med card but what I hate is that I can travel 100 airmile radius with no written logs.............but a couple mile down the road & I cross the state line....Now Im interstate & everything is thrown out the window!

ya gotta feel for the trucking industry!!!


LXT...........

 

[Grace Tree]

I feel your pain. I have to do a charity job south of Cory PA when the weather breaks and I've already heard a horror story from another contractor who drove his truck into PA without a DOT number on the door. I spent 25 years accounting for every hour of every day of my life filling out log books and while I don't think it will come to that passing a DOT physical would be problematic. High BP and white coat syndrome make physicals a bad experience. Except for one with a female Italian woman doctor in spike heels who did everything short of saying the words "will you ..... me" I'm as faithful as a dead dog so I turned her down but she was so far out of my league that the whole thing was surreal. We'll see what happens. The one website I went to said they wouldn't issue fines until Jan. 2011 unless the violations were very serious.
Phil
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[pdqdl]

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that someone is misunderstanding the current laws. That happens a lot. Some local cop goes to DOT school for generating city revenue, then starts writing tickets for stuff that the locals never heard of.

Most all states are bound to follow the Federal DOT regulations, so that everybody is driving under the same rules.

You will need to meet all the DOT regulations about medical cards, etc, if your TRAILER exceeds 10,000 GVWR for any combination. BTW, you will need a class A license, too.

 

[Grace Tree]

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that someone is misunderstanding the current laws. That happens a lot. Some local cop goes to DOT school for generating city revenue, then starts writing tickets for stuff that the locals never heard of.

Most all states are bound to follow the Federal DOT regulations, so that everybody is driving under the same rules.

You will need to meet all the DOT regulations about medical cards, etc, if your TRAILER exceeds 10,000 GVWR for any combination. BTW, you will need a class A license, too.

No, not in Ohio, for intrastate non motor carrier under 26,000. No logs, no medical card, no insurance abstract, no DOT number and probably some other stuff I've forgotten.
Phil

 

[komatsuvarna]

You will need to meet all the DOT regulations about medical cards, etc, if your TRAILER exceeds 10,000 GVWR for any combination. BTW, you will need a class A license, too.

That is exactly right. Here anyways, and Id guess that most states have the same laws, or close to it.

 

[dk27]

We now also have to hold a DOT medicial card for a hydraulics license(hoisting engineer)as You're running a machine on the road that over the weight limit.

 

[lxt]

No, not in Ohio, for intrastate non motor carrier under 26,000. No logs, no medical card, no insurance abstract, no DOT number and probably some other stuff I've forgotten.
Phil

pretty much same here.........although I still do pre & post trip inpection sheets, along with trailer/chipper inspection sheets.........I feel for you on the Med Card, I just got mine to be safe & to avoid Mr. tin badges ego....but was told dont need DOT number for intrastate (100 airmile radius) ???? something like that.

I got my trailer weight ticket (unladen) just to have on hand for my manifests & such...a driver there told me in OH his buddy got ticketed for binder chains/ Binder cause they werent marked with a Mfg tag showing rating! I guess when the states are bad off they gotta fine someone uh?


LXT...................

 

[link523]

10000+ you need a health card in michigan 150 airmiles no log for class c 100 airmiles class b and a but good luck with that!!! some dot cop make there own interpation of the law :censored:

 

[Grace Tree]

Yep. Ohio's broke. Someone told me that they're targeting the landscapers with the new law (if it's true). It may even prevent me from legally carrying a handgun in my van. Have to check into that. I got stopped for no turn signal on my pull behind lift a couple years ago. In Ohio you have to give them the "I'm licensed to carry a concealed handgun" notification when they come up to the window. Trooper told me to come to the back of the van. When I turned the corner and he pointed his finger at me and went bang. He told me that I'd be dead and my handgun wouldn't do me any good. I felt like pointed four fingers back at him and telling he'd be dead 'cause I had a machine hand. Things went downhill pretty fast when he told me I'd have to have a flatbed come and get the lift. I was 1 mile from my house on a back road. I had to do some talking to get him to let me tow it that last mile. He followed me all the way with the lights on. I'm pretty certain he was a DOT (diesel cop) inspector at one time because he knew laws that I'd never heard of. Anyway, that's just the kind of encounters I'd like to peacefully avoid for the balance of my life.
Phil

 

[komatsuvarna]

Yep. Ohio's broke. Someone told me that they're targeting the landscapers with the new law (if it's true). It may even prevent me from legally carrying a handgun in my van. Have to check into that. I got stopped for no turn signal on my pull behind lift a couple years ago. In Ohio you have to give them the "I'm licensed to carry a concealed handgun" notification when they come up to the window. Trooper told me to come to the back of the van. When I turned the corner and he pointed his finger at me and went bang. He told me that I'd be dead and my handgun wouldn't do me any good. I felt like pointed four fingers back at him and telling he'd be dead 'cause I had a machine hand. Things went downhill pretty fast when he told me I'd have to have a flatbed come and get the lift. I was 1 mile from my house on a back road. I had to do some talking to get him to let me tow it that last mile. He followed me all the way with the lights on. I'm pretty certain he was a DOT (diesel cop) inspector at one time because he knew laws that I'd never heard of. Anyway, that's just the kind of encounters I'd like to peacefully avoid for the balance of my life.
Phil

Here, they've been cracking down on landscapers, lawn mowing business's, and small construction outfits, which is me.

I know in TN your not supposed to carry a handgun in anything that has commercial tags,,,, but I do anyways. Guess Ill deal with it when the time comes.

 

[CNBTreeTrimming]

I guess that means I shouldn't say I've towed 25,000# on an untagged trailer many times with standard dl no dot # 33,000 total vehicle weight and what...is that red tint in the fuel?

 

[komatsuvarna]

I guess that means I shouldn't say I've towed 25,000# on an untagged trailer many times with standard dl no dot # 33,000 total vehicle weight and what...is that red tint in the fuel?

Haha, ive done it before too,,,,,just cant get caught.

 

[CNBTreeTrimming]

Yeah it would hurt to get nailed for one of those loads.

 

[epicklein22]

I heard a rumbling about this. I guess some people are fighting it?

Sucks though, I'm gonna finally get my CDL A this spring.

 

[Grace Tree]

I heard a rumbling about this. I guess some people are fighting it?

Sucks though, I'm gonna finally get my CDL A this spring.

Hey, are you guys back to work over in no man's land? I was supposed to start on a storm downed willow yesterday but I decided to wait until the rain melts the snow on Monday. I was going to give my CDL up a few years ago because I vowed to never, ever set my rear in another tractor trailer. My wife has more sense than I do and she told me to hang onto it. I'm glad I did because I had to drive a truck to Lake Milton so a guy could take his combo test. After seeing the junk he had to go through with the pre trip inspection and all I'd hate to have to take the test again. I have all the endorsements except hazmat which requires some type of ongoing cert.
Be careful this year,
Phil

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[epicklein22]

Hey, are you guys back to work over in no man's land? I was supposed to start on a storm downed willow yesterday but I decided to wait until the rain melts the snow on Monday. I was going to give my CDL up a few years ago because I vowed to never, ever set my rear in another tractor trailer. My wife has more sense than I do and she told me to hang onto it. I'm glad I did because I had to drive a truck to Lake Milton so a guy could take his combo test. After seeing the junk he had to go through with the pre trip inspection and all I'd hate to have to take the test again. I have all the endorsements except hazmat which requires some type of ongoing cert.
Be careful this year,
Phil

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I'm in school right now, but those guys have been going out every week (or when the weather permits) for a while now. Not 5 days a week, but maybe 2 or 3 days.

I'm going to a "cheater" school for the CDL. He has a cheater truck and trailer and he has a 95% passage rating the first time and 100% the second try.

I need some arborwear! Keep tearing holes in mine. Gonna set aside a little money for boots and arborwear soon. Spring is almost here!

 

[pdqdl]

I guess that means I shouldn't say I've towed 25,000# on an untagged trailer many times with standard dl no dot # 33,000 total vehicle weight and what...is that red tint in the fuel?

It doesn't matter what your vehicle weighs. You can legally carry far more weight than your "Gross Vehicle Weight Rating". If you are towing a 9k trailer loaded to 20,000lbs with a 17k gvwr truck loaded to 20k, you will not get a ticket for not having a cdl.

An overweight ticket seems imminent though...

 

[pdqdl]

OK! Here are the real Ohio Laws!

I took the time to look it up, and YES! Ohio is being a bunch of jerks and they are requiring a medical card for more vehicles than the Federal standards.

At least they do offer a procedure for getting a waiver if you can't pass the federal DOT physical. Hmmm... What's wrong with this picture? Fail the physical to prove your fitness, and they will give you a waiver, now that they KNOW you are unfit to drive? I guess the real reason they are making folks get physicals is to trip up the druggies.

Read it all here: Commercial Motor Vehicle Drivers Medical Exam and Medical Waivers - PUCO