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Yep, ascend the rope. I have to compare it to the 1:1 ropework I use. Between the having to take two strides up and only gaining 1 stride of altitude, and the 'slop' in the system, AND the (very small) minor amount of creep, or roll in the friction hitch, all added together caused me to weep in considering how much more work and parts and motion you guys employ while thinking it's some sort of solution.It seems like it should work just as well as any other DdRT system for footlocking the tail. Is that what you were trying to do?
The ascender version of this would be to invert just before the ascender will hit the limb, cast your legs up over, like when you were a kid hangin on the monkey bars, and 'body bounce' even centimeters at a time if called for. In a 1:1 system, with zero-friction ascenders that advance and positively lock down and never, ever creep backwards, you have the confidence and especially, the technical ability. There is no 'slop' in the system, there is no 'tending' or 'tuning' or slack or slop or play. Advance the ascender 20 cm and you gain 20 cm altitude, not 10. Doubled rope or single rope, it plays out almost identically.moss said:I often body thrust for short distances to get around limbs instead of banging into them while footlocking.
No comparing apples to oranges. Climbing the tree is a different world than ascending and descending a rope. Climbing around the tree really amounts to keeping a little tension on you all the. You're not really on rope, you're on tree. It's more about you and Mr Flipline. The lifeline is there as support and confidence maker, awaiting you go back into ascent/descent mode.moss said:Using your legs on the tree or branches equals body thrusting when you're ascending DdRT right?
I get it, moss, that you were specifically referring to that intermingled world where rope work and tree climbing cross over and dance as one.
In descent of the rope (rappel (abseil) and belay, the technical aspect really comes into play as you entire existence focuses around a piece of 3/8 or 5/16 diameter cord that wears over time.
For me it's really the same as you, except I connect directly to the rope througth a 50 kN steel biner and a simple piece of aluminum to keep theat rope in exactly the place you would want it. That, and I'm up and down 1:1
Other than those couple of differences, we're doing the exact same job.