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On a z-rig I use a 5/2 vt made of T-900 (decided I didn't like it for climbing hitch). This easily handles as much force as me and a couple of other guys can put on the z-rig. With the fiddle block I have used the same configuration but with the vt out of tenex and that works well too.
 
I believe the actual number standard that a man should be able to pull is at least 200# Some of us more.
 
well guess i'm closer to half a man dripping wet.................ya ever sweat the final leg of the Z-Rig tight to leverage that high input line purchase; into the 3/1 system? Or in a tie down for equipment, bikes etc.; Z rig with slightly spread legs for small efficiency loss; so that you can wrap the tail around the legs after locking off and leverage bend a purchase like that, onto the Z-Rig; for much higher tension than any lost from the spread legs.

Another tie down trick is to anchor, go around tie down item, then to asn anchor to Z rig back for 6/1. On sprung items like motorcycle forks, compress to one side, then put a rig on the other side and compress equally to stragithen back up, the pressure of the shocks pushing back giving great lock in the bind of the 2 matching forces.
 
Spydy,

I didn't quite understand the bit about turning the z-rig into a 6:1. Would you mind explaining it again for the less knowledgeable folks like myself?


Thanks.
 
Finally...

Well, I got to use my new toys in a work situation. After tinkering with them in my backyard, I finally felt it was time to put them to use.

I had a 90' or so pecan with some large dead limbs in the top of the crown. The tree was full of suckers and vines, so isolating my line for DdRT would have been a pain.

I set my line in a fatty crotch near the top, ran the tail to another tree in the yard, and tied a RB. Setup the ascenders, tied a second climbing line to my saddle and went up. Needless to say, it was a quick and easy ascent.

Now that I've had 'em in a work scenario, a couple of q's came about. Do most of you take a seperate line with you to work the tree? If you tied a RB with an extra long tail to the limb itself, reached the top, safetied-in, undid the RB, then tied DdRT, what do you do with all the extra stuff? Seems like to big of a pain to just clip it onto your saddle.

Any thoughts, as usual, are apprieciated.
 
I try to send the RB into the crotch and just untie it when I get there,if isolation is a problem then let your groud people untie when you ask them .If this is all out of the question then I will use a second line.
An ascent line can be great and can have many uses ,I really think it all depends on the task at hand.
 
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