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Face cut a notch in that tree!

As others here have said, notch face cuts and then back cut with a hinge will give you far more control in dropping a tree. A Humbolt cut is fine. Anything bigger than 8 inches and I face cut a notch 1/3 the diameter of the tree, and then make a back cut one to two inches above the notch to make a hinge, and fell that sucker right where I want it most of the time. In leaner situations where the bar might get pinched or you need more control where it might get hung up or roll out, use a bore cut instead of a simple/single back cut and leave some hold wood on the opposite side of the notch. Then cut the hold wood when you are ready to drop her. Watch out for dutch cuts (overshoot of top or bottom face cut into the tree). They can cause problems.

Here is a site that I found from our friends in Canada that made it simple and easy to follow using diagrams on how to fell a tree in various situations, and what we are referring to in cutting here:

http://www.gov.mb.ca/labour/safety/treefelling.html

I tested several of these methods on stumps that I wanted to lower and some large diameter snags and spars that were about 10-20 ft tall. The more cuts you make the better you will be in the long term, and the more likely you will live to tell about it. I dunno about your father... man... what can I say? Around here they say that you are not an experienced sawyer until you cut a tree that spins completely around, falls 180 degrees of where you wanted it to land, and hits the ground exactly where you laid the chainsaw down. Maybe he should watch the movie, "Sometimes a Great Notion?" One barberchair is all it takes... then again, I guess you could nail his arm to a logging barge and head to the mill?
 
Thanks for all the info, everyone. I will continue to notch, but I will use an open face notch now. After viewing the helpful links, I noticed that my notches have a small "dutchman". When cutting the Humboldt notch you can't see the crotch of the cuts. In my past cuts I always had a dutchman that was about 3/8" deep and the width of the chain. There never was a problem, but if let go it could get worse and become a problem.

Now I will start taking the saw and clean out the crotch where the two cuts meet in the notch and "Let 'er Rip".


Thanks,
JAckal :D :rock:
 
+1.

Anyway, everybody else is right about the notch-and-hinge bit - they are important, often essential, and should NOT be skipped. Even on little 3" trees the no-notch technique is unsafe - a friend had his MS290 tossed about 25 feet when a 3" maple barberchaired, and he easily could have been hurt, too.

Everyone's first saw should come with a copy of Mr. Beranek's The Fundamentals of General Tree Work.

I was trimming a 3" branch on a Madrone stump yesterday and did not do a face cut. It came straight down and landed about 6" from my foot!!! Always do a face cut.
 
Thanks for all the info, everyone. I will continue to notch, but I will use an open face notch now. After viewing the helpful links, I noticed that my notches have a small "dutchman". When cutting the Humboldt notch you can't see the crotch of the cuts. In my past cuts I always had a dutchman that was about 3/8" deep and the width of the chain. There never was a problem, but if let go it could get worse and become a problem.

Now I will start taking the saw and clean out the crotch where the two cuts meet in the notch and "Let 'er Rip".


Thanks,
JAckal :D :rock:

An open face is not right for every situation. Sometimes it is important to have the hinge snap and the tree to come off the stump.
 
I am fairly new to felling. I see alot of videos of the notch around 3 or 4 feet from the ground. I have always made my notch about 1 ft or less. Is there an advantage to the higher cut for felling or is it better for getting out of the way faster in case of bargerchair.
 
higher or lower

Lower can mean greater wood utilization, as in lumber.
Higher could be safer as it is easier to look up and escape.

If you're going to firewood or just remove a tree/snag, think about a stump height where you can stand comfortably with knees slightly bent. You get it down, then deal with stump height after tree is safely down.

It can be a lot more complicated than that.

All the best
 

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