Oklahoma,AR,MO,KS,TX GTG (Next GTG 08/27/2016 ) Fort Scott, KS

[Hinerman]

After the Joplin tornado, we were taking out an up rooted willow tree with a giant root ball..
The root ball was so heavy and fresh, we whittled away at the top till it was so light, the trunk finally stood back up into the root hole..!!
Then I dropped the stick in the conventional manner..


I felt real smart right then..
But it was a passing moment.

This makes the most sense to me,,,but I don't know.

 

[bigtuna]

Carb and intake setup just a tad snug. I think was from the jonsey equivalent of the 272 husq. And tilly carb from 272 may have to get the shoe horn out.

 

[67L36Driver]

bigtuna: Them Tilly HS are all the same size in envelope dimensions. The difference comes in on the bore/Venturi diameters.

 

[srcarr52]

You can buy the decompression valve next to nothing. But I've heard that on the 61 case , decomp. Valve gets in the way of the the chainbreak. Just what I heard a few other builders say.

The old style metal flag chainbrakes get in the way off a decomp on this series of saw (61, 26, 268, 272). The new plastic flag chainbrake does not have a problem.

Carb and intake setup just a tad snug. I think was from the jonsey equivalent of the 272 husq. And tilly carb from 272 may have to get the shoe horn out.

Looks like you have a 272 intake, carb and filter setup on a 61 cylinder? It's not going to work as the intake flange from the cylinder is too long and pushing the intake, carb and filter neck too far back. I think the 61 had a shorter intake block.

 

[Hedgerow]

The old style metal flag chainbrakes get in the way off a decomp on this series of saw (61, 26, 268, 272). The new plastic flag chainbrake does not have a problem.



Looks like you have a 272 intake, carb and filter setup on a 61 cylinder? It's not going to work as the intake flange from the cylinder is too long and pushing the intake, carb and filter neck too far back. I think the 61 had a shorter intake block.

Yes. The block on the 61 was rather thin.

 

[Hedgerow]

This makes the most sense to me,,,but I don't know.

A. Is the trunk down on the ground? As in beyond 90 degrees from being upright?
B. Is the rootball still hovering over its hole? Or has it been moved?

 

[awol]

Which one do you snip first? I am assuming the top, to open up the cut. Snipping the bottom first could pinch the bar.

Snip whichever one is under tension first, and leave the side that's under compression. It will almost always tear free without any help.

 

[Hinerman]

A. Is the trunk down on the ground? As in beyond 90 degrees from being upright?
B. Is the rootball still hovering over its hole? Or has it been moved?

A. No, it is not completely on the ground. Angling about 15-20° up from the base.
B. Yes, the rootball is still hovering over the hole. No, it has not been moved.

I may try to get some pics if I can.

 

[bigtuna]

Scar , you are almost correct , complete intake carb setup on a 272 aftermarket cylinder.

 

[Hedgerow]

A. No, it is not completely on the ground. Angling about 15-20° up from the base.
B. Yes, the rootball is still hovering over the hole. No, it has not been moved.

I may try to get some pics if I can.

If you can't lighten up the top and get it to stand back up, Do what Alan suggested.
Bore in and through the center / cut down toward bottom but leave some compression wood / then up toward top leaving some tension wood
Warning:
A. That root ball wants to fall back into it's hole, but they can also roll a bit if roots are not holding it like a hinge.
B. When you snip the tension wood, fibers can pull from the top of the trunk even on the root side of the kerf. Be prepared if it takes your saw for a ride.

 

[Hedgerow]

How big is this tree Thomas?

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

Only advice I can give is be careful. great idea on the pictures.

 

[Hinerman]

How big is this tree Thomas?

20" diameter or there abouts. I am sure the base is bigger.

 

[67L36Driver]

Any one of you fellows have a Walbro WT 21 for a Stihl 011? Or, can't live without a low hr project missing the carb.?

 

[srcarr52]

Scar , you are almost correct , complete intake carb setup on a 272 aftermarket cylinder.

I'd say they screwed up on the intake flange machining.

 

[workshop]

Had a memorial service for my last Grandparent today. Her name was Nellie. She was 94 and lived a good life. The last 10-15 yrs were pretty tough. Her mind failed her unfortunately. I still remember going to her hen house and getting fresh eggs for breakfast when I was a kid and drinking milk straight from the cow. She is the reason I started eating tomato's. I hated them until I tried one of her home grown ones. She made the best pies I have ever eaten. Pumpkin, apple, raisin, coconut cream, lemon, and strawberry rhubarb were the ones I remember most. She put a stick of butter in the pumpkin pie (try it some time, I dare you).....my Dad used to say, "You get some of that on your forehead and your tongue will beat you to death trying to get to it." Her crust was fantastic (2nd to none); and she passed the secrets down to my wife She canned tomatoes, green beans, corn, pickles, and anything else that came from the earth. Her pickled beets were the best, nice and sweet, almost like candy or dessert. Most of the ones I try now just get spit back on the plate after eating hers for so many years. Still haven't found any as good as hers.

She could pick cotton and shuck corn with any man alive. She could catch, clean, and fry crappie for 10 or more all in one day. My dad would haul hay all day as a kid and Grandma would cook him a whole chicken. She would ring the neck, pluck the feathers, dress it, and fry it up....By the time I came around we just bought the chicken at the store, but it was damn good anyway; especially with her homemade gravy and potatoes, home grown tomatoes, green beans, and pie.

She was half Creek Indian and according to my Dad, could be mean as the devil. I never saw that side. She called me "her baby" my whole life. I told her one time, in my late teens, "I am not your baby anymore Grandma", to which she replied, "Oh yes you are, you will always be my baby".

Nellie was baptized later on in life (at the age of 75-76) so I will see her again some day; maybe we will have another chicken leg, sliced tomato, and a piece of pie.

Just wanted to share my Grandma with you guys...

Really nice Thomas, it reminded me of my Grandmother. She was born in 1904, passed away at 94, also.

 

[Hedgerow]

I'd say they screwed up on the intake flange machining.

Eh...
Nothin a horse rasp can't fix.
Lol...

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

Just unlimited the Carb on the 2166.

 

[Homelite410]

Kenneth n Cobey, your parts are in the mail.

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

Mike your all right I don't care what the rest of them say.