Oklahoma,AR,MO,KS,TX GTG (Next GTG 08/27/2016 ) Fort Scott, KS

[Hedgerow]

What I was going to say I learned is, after cutting multiple hickories they will hold and spin with as little as you pinky being the problem, second of all you notch needs the top at about 45 degrees and the bottom at negative twenty or more. Talked to a logger friend he said they consider them death trees when small like we cut. He said the are never predictable. Any way thats my two cents for what it's worth.

Yes... Make the face cut large enough to get the tree to the ground... Some woods are tough... Strong enough that an inch of strap can hold them in suspension... That's bad news... I think your thinking here is on the right track.
I had a very large Elm sit on its notch... Huge pain in the ass and tense situation getting it to the ground...
An anemic face cut was the problem... Use a notch sufficient to get the trunk to the ground without closing it's mouth.
Learned my lesson...
:amazed:

 

[specter29]

True...
On another note...
Wave by-by to the old trusty Honda...
Hit a deer this morning at 70mph... "They totaled it"
But I killed that deer "Grave yard DEAD"...
Hit it right in the front shoulder...
Quite the explosion...

Found a replacement for ya Matt. A guy came here today with a ratrod 152HP Duetz diesel 30MPG, 4spd Manual.

 

[Hedgerow]

Now all he's gotta do is paint it Deutz green and roll!!!

 

[pdqdl]

Found a replacement for ya Matt. A guy came here today with a ratrod 152HP Duetz diesel 30MPG, 4spd Manual.
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Was that 30 MPG or 30 MPH? (not to exceed!)

 

[Freehand]

Yes... Make the face cut large enough to get the tree to the ground... Some woods are tough... Strong enough that an inch of strap can hold them in suspension... That's bad news... I think your thinking here is on the right track.
I had a very large Elm sit on its notch... Huge pain in the ass and tense situation getting it to the ground...
An anemic face cut was the problem... Use a notch sufficient to get the trunk to the ground without closing it's mouth.
Learned my lesson...
:amazed:

I'm starting to see some marked differences between the battle hardened firewood cutters, urban foresters, and hack commercial timber fallers. My site boss would have my hide for hogging out a big honking face cut, or not hanging through the fall cut to curb the dreaded fibre pull.

 

[Hedgerow]

I'm starting to see some marked differences between the battle hardened firewood cutters, urban foresters, and hack commercial timber fallers. My site boss would have my hide for hogging out a big honking face cut, or not hanging through the fall cut to curb the dreaded fibre pull.

End use is the deciding factor sometimes... Dropping a tree with a canopy is different than one lone stick, that's had the limbs removed... As far as fiber pull? If it matters, your site boss is probably right... Keep cutting.. But not too far!!!:waaaht: Remember the cut we were discussing at the bottom of that tree??? Humboldt? I think it was?

 

[sarahdodgegeek]

Andy's trying his freehand....

 

[sarahdodgegeek]

He says... "It is NOT as easy as freehand made it look!"

 

[CMNRallye79]

That is awesome. What kind of wood? Now I have two hero's.

 

[sarahdodgegeek]

Not bad for the 1st try!

 

[sarahdodgegeek]

Red oak. Very hard wood.

Started off as a 19" diameter log, now it is approximately 8"x8". And darned close to square.. man knows how to handle his wood... Heh heh.

 

[pdqdl]

Did you do that with a ripping chain, or just the usual stuff?

 

[Hedgerow]

Did you do that with a ripping chain, or just the usual stuff?

Jason uses regular chisel... I bet Andy did the same... :msp_wink:

 

[CMNRallye79]

How long did it take?

 

[pdqdl]

Jason uses regular chisel... I bet Andy did the same... :msp_wink:

I thought he told us to file them at a steeper angle... about 10° - 15° ?

Maybe I was imagining it, but I seem to recall something about getting a smoother cut and wandering in the cut less. I read too much, and info keeps leaking out of my head into my ears; they stuff the info back in and the origin gets lost. :msp_rolleyes:

 

[HEAVY FUEL]

Andy's trying his freehand....

I was going to do that tonight too!!!.but i couldn't find anyone to hold the other end of the chalkline, so I said forget it..otstir:

 

[Majorpayne]

How long did it take?

Ever since he got home.

 

[andydodgegeek]

I just got in the house. I did just use a regular round ground chisel chain, on my Stihl 440. I remember Jayson saying he ground his chains at I believe it was 15degrees. Mine were just my normal 30*. The first cut was the hardest by far. You may notice the first picture and how wavy the one side looks, that was done just to get rid of a couple of big knots. That was done truly freehanded. It may look like I was drunk when I cut that but as some of you may know I dont drink so I have no excuse. In the end it turned out pretty good. Im not sure how long it took, it must have been an hour or so. I want to cut enough of them to make the uprights for my wood shed I am planning on building. They dont need to be perfect for that. Thanks again to Freehand (Jayson) for showing us this. Just another fun thing to do with a chainsaw.

 

[RVALUE]

I just got in the house. I did just use a regular round ground chisel chain, on my Stihl 440. I remember Jayson saying he ground his chains at I believe it was 15degrees. Mine were just my normal 30*. The first cut was the hardest by far. You may notice the first picture and how wavy the one side looks, that was done just to get rid of a couple of big knots. That was done truly freehanded. It may look like I was drunk when I cut that but as some of you may know I dont drink so I have no excuse. In the end it turned out pretty good. Im not sure how long it took, it must have been an hour or so. I want to cut enough of them to make the uprights for my wood shed I am planning on building. They dont need to be perfect for that. Thanks again to Freehand (Jayson) for showing us this. Just another fun thing to do with a chainsaw.

Just what fun things are you talking about?

 

[RVALUE]

I knew where there was a nice hickory log, but it had a big dent in it.