Oklahoma,AR,MO,KS,TX GTG (Next GTG 08/27/2016 ) Fort Scott, KS

[RVALUE]

Guns are for rich dudes.

I'll stick to my $ 2ooo chainsaws.

 

[Locust Cutter]

If you want to start a discussion, explain to me how a muzzleoader has a 'more violent' recoil than a higher power rifle.

Muzzle loader scopes are supposedly tougher.

Higher volume than some, sure. My TC that's rated for 150grs of Pyrodex (roughly 2.5F equivalent) has a lot more recoil at full-tilt than my .243, but the .243 is still more sharp due to the faster burn-rate and resultant higher pressure of smokeless powder... That's why I have fun shooting .416 Rigbys!

 

[RVALUE]

I guess that covers the question, eh?

I always wanted one of their binoculars, but I was never willing to fork out the bucks.

I didn't see the prices.

Those 7x ziess, were $ 800 plus in the 80s

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

Did you catch that I got a 346?

You got a 3 4 6 :msp_thumbup:

 

[RVALUE]

A couple of years ago in duck season , a buddy put his seat back on a $ 1200 pair of swaroskis, (sp) . He was sick. Then he thought they were lifetime warranty.

Who knows.

I can't remember, and I'm not googling it, but I think Carl Ziess was in the 1800s.

 

[RVALUE]

Higher volume than some, sure. My TC that's rated for 150grs of Pyrodex (roughly 2.5F equivalent) has a lot more recoil at full-tilt than my .243, but the .243 is still more sharp due to the faster burn-rate and resultant higher pressure of smokeless powder... That's why I have fun shooting .416 Rigbys!

That is the opposit.

 

[RVALUE]

We just got beat on a bid job.

I bid $ 50 / load (dump trailer) to purchase and deliver wood chips 10 miles. That is purchase, load, haul, dump, and spread for $ 50.

Someone said they'd do it for $ 25.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Hedgerow]

I believe the .22-250 holds around 44 grains of water and the .250-300 is around 46. Paltry but noticeable difference.



With a 40gr bullet out of 26" tube, yes. You go 62 or higher, you're closer to 3200-3500fps again, out of a 26" tube. Figure about 75-150 fps loss per inch below that. That's also using really slow burning powders to take advantage of the case capacity and not have an excessive pressure spike.

Wonder how that plays out in a revolver...???
Got a 10.5" barrel on my 44 ruger...

 

[RVALUE]

The backdrop to my shooting range is a state highway. eh Supercabs? lol


just have to time your shots.

 

[RVALUE]

I believe the .22-250 holds around 44 grains of water and the .250-300 is around 46. Paltry but noticeable difference.



With a 40gr bullet out of 26" tube, yes. You go 62 or higher, you're closer to 3200-3500fps again, out of a 26" tube. Figure about 75-150 fps loss per inch below that. That's also using really slow burning powders to take advantage of the case capacity and not have an excessive pressure spike.

That better be fire water.

 

[Locust Cutter]

Wonder how that plays out in a revolver...???
Got a 10.5" barrel on my 44 ruger...

In your case, 25-65fps... The faster it initially starts, the more dramatic the difference is. On slower numbers, the difference is mush less noticeable. For a carry revolver I like a 4"-5" barrel. For a hunting or target revolver, I like a 6" barrel or longer for the longer more forgiving sight radius, and the more nose heavy bias which helps with recoil.

 

[Locust Cutter]

That better be fire water.

Well,
Considering that the main active component in "smokeless" powder is Nitro-Glycerin, that ought to qualify. Water is just easier to use for case capacity measurements as it fill evenly and completely.

 

[Hedgerow]

In your case, 25-65fps... The faster it initially starts, the more dramatic the difference is. On slower numbers, the difference is mush less noticeable. For a carry revolver I like a 4"-5" barrel. For a hunting or target revolver, I like a 6" barrel or longer for the longer more forgiving sight radius, and the more nose heavy bias which helps with recoil.

It shoots like a dream... I shoot paper at 100 yards with it...
Deer at under 75...

 

[RVALUE]

I know a fellow who shot a 4 x 4 blacktail with a 4 inch 38 spl. at 72 yards. Right off the highway.

With a very credible ( and certified......) witness. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Mo. Jim]

The only rifle I really want is Barrett 50 with all the bells and whisells. I don't plan on hunting deer with it either.

 

[RVALUE]

He actually missed his target area.

Back at the shop, couldn't find a hole anywhere, finally opened the eyelid, and blasted eyeball. Perfect .

Was actually aiming for the brain bucket.










Honest officer, we was all in the back seat!

 

[pdqdl]

Well,
Considering that the main active component in "smokeless" powder is Nitro-Glycerin, that ought to qualify. Water is just easier to use for case capacity measurements as it fill evenly and completely.

The origin and most formulations of smokeless powder are based on gun-cotton. Essentially, a reaction of nitric acid with plain old cotton. Nitroglycerine is the reaction of nitric acid with glycerin (or other similar liquid components) to form an energetic carbon compound with lots of nitrogen bonds.

Similar chemistry, but quite a bit of difference in the liquid/solid phase. Stability is an issue with nitroglycerin anyway. Nobel made big bucks by turning it into dynamite, but even that stuff becomes unstable. Gun cotton and smokeless powder are incredibly stable, but not as energetic.

 

[Locust Cutter]

Higher volume than some, sure. My TC that's rated for 150grs of Pyrodex (roughly 2.5F equivalent) has a lot more recoil at full-tilt than my .243, but the .243 is still more sharp due to the faster burn-rate and resultant higher pressure of smokeless powder... That's why I have fun shooting .416 Rigbys!

Of course the above mentioned assumes that rifle weight, stock design, and decelerator pad (or lack thereof) are more or less equal. If we factor in Newton's Third law of motion, as rifle weight decreases (as has been the trend lately) the real and perceived effect is magnified. However the perceived effect usually is a more dramatic change than the actual force. I love big calibers that burn slow powder, in about a 8-11lb rifle. They're a blast literally and figuratively.

 

[Locust Cutter]

The only rifle I really want is Barrett 50 with all the bells and whisells. I don't plan on hunting deer with it either.

The 50 would be fun, but you might have more fun with the .416 Barret, especially as it stays supersonic longer than the 50 does. The Amax bullets have ridiculously high BC's... Couple that with the B.O.R.S. Sighting system and you'd have a handy CWII rifle...

 

[sawnami]

I've got this round but the gun that it fits has wings.:rolleyes2:

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..........and seven barrels:msp_biggrin: