Petzl swivel

[SWAMPY036]

Who is using a swivel on your climbing line. I was looking at these and was wonder if someone could post a pis of a setup with this in it. It seems to me that this would add another karb. You might be able to slide your bridge through but that also might be a pain when climbing with the hitchclimber if you are adding a sling for hip thrusting or limb walk. Any thoughts. Oh ya are you using the large or small swivel. thanks Tom

 

[JS Landscaping]

I use a Petzl Swivel on my set up, very nice having one so your not twisting your line if your moving about in the tree. I have a Carabiner that hooks the loop on my saddle to the swivel, then another carabiner that hooks the swivel to my spliced eye on my climbing line and my split tail prussic with the spliced eye. I can spin around my climbing line with ease, or untwist it if it becomes tangled. Climbed without it once and it felt like I was fighting the Line more. Definatly recomend it, I use the Larger one.

 

[masiman]

...I have a Carabiner that hooks the loop on my saddle to the swivel, then another carabiner that hooks the swivel to my spliced eye on my climbing line and my split tail prussic with the spliced eye....

That sounds like a long lead to your split tail system. Does it limit how much line you can pull on your split tail having to reach that far (loop, 2 biner's, swivel, spliced-eye to prussic, with pulley tender below the hitch)?

 

[JS Landscaping]

Doesnt really affect me at all, I dont use a prussic tending pully, just slide my blakes hitch up wiht my hand as im going up. I am a rather large guy, and have long arms so I usually have a good 1' to 2' bridge on my prussic, and having long arms to reach way above helps. I could see it becoming a problem if you dont have a long reach like I do, but with a 6' arm span it hasnt become an issue.

 

[DonnyO]

Here ya go Swampy. Right onto the rope bridge small one, awesome. I'll post some closer pics later...

 

[DonnyO]

here ya go swampy

maybe this will help with your hitch climber questions too...

 

[treemandan]

Here ya go Swampy. Right onto the rope bridge small one, awesome. I'll post some closer pics later...

Slick pic. How does one remove the rope from the saddle?

How is the durabilty on the swivel? Does grit get in there? What kind of noises can one expect to hear during its operation?

I like the idea, but that little thing makes me feel bait. Still, it is something I would like to try.

 

[DonnyO]

Slick pic. How does one remove the rope from the saddle?

How is the durabilty on the swivel? Does grit get in there? What kind of noises can one expect to hear during its operation?

I like the idea, but that little thing makes me feel bait. Still, it is something I would like to try.

Remove the rope by opening the 'biner, the set up in the first pic is a version of the "secret weapon" used by beddes at the '06 ITCC

Swivel is smooth and quiet.

See second set of pics, even if the swivel were to come apart, I have it set up so that the sling would catch it.

 

[JS Landscaping]

What kind of knot is that you are using with the prussic minding pulley? Do you find that system you have easier then using a blakes hitch? Another climber at the company I work for has a similar set up like that, except without the swivel and the claims its much faster being able to pull yourself up farther, then tend the slack then sliding your knot up with every thrust as you go up.

 

[treemandan]

What kind of knot is that you are using with the prussic minding pulley? Do you find that system you have easier then using a blakes hitch? Another climber at the company I work for has a similar set up like that, except without the swivel and the claims its much faster being able to pull yourself up farther, then tend the slack then sliding your knot up with every thrust as you go up.

It didn't look like the eye splice would fit thriugh the swivel in the picture and the safety catch( sling) answered my question of the assumption of integrity.
how long have you been using it?

 

[DonnyO]

It didn't look like the eye splice would fit thriugh the swivel in the picture and the safety catch( sling) answered my question of the assumption of integrity.
how long have you been using it?

It does fit through.

I prefer to use the set up in the second set of pics, the first pic is the set up (my replication of) the one used to win multiple ITCC's, I think that speaks for itself.

The system I use with the hitch climber involves girthing a loop runner to the bottom of the swivel. This accomplishes two things; 1. I don't need it to swivel while I am thrusting to advance 2 It leaves more room in the top part of the swivel. The "back up" of the swivel is quite by accident.

I have been using the hitch climber since november, but messing around with different variations of self tending systems for a few years now.

 

[DonnyO]

What kind of knot is that you are using with the prussic minding pulley? Do you find that system you have easier then using a blakes hitch? Another climber at the company I work for has a similar set up like that, except without the swivel and the claims its much faster being able to pull yourself up farther, then tend the slack then sliding your knot up with every thrust as you go up.

I think you're asking about the second set of pics.

distal hitch, the eye-n-eye hitches are far superior to blakes, taughtline, et all.

The other climber at your company is right!

 

[SWAMPY036]

DonnyO

The fist pic is a slick setup for sure. The second set is exactly what I was looking for. Leaving the sling right in the system and backing up the swivel is sweet. All that and no extra clutter. I am def. going to make one of the BARC climbs this summer. Thanks for the pics

 

[DonnyO]

10-4 Tom.

Some of this stuff is kind of hard to explain even with pictures. Glad I was able to make myself clear.

It'll be good to see you again, maybe you can make it to the NeTCC in june?

For more on that first set up: search 'pulley trick for oldirty'. Its cool but the hitchclimber is just a little better IMO.