Pioneer 1130

[ross_scott]

Hi
I am new to the forums and I need some assistance on where I can find a manual for a pioneer 1130 chainsaw. If you know of a website that may have a PDF version that I can download I would be very greatful. I have just purchased this saw and it is in very good condition and runs well the only thing that is wrong with it is it will not idle without flooding the carburettor, what I suspect is the idle setting is too low hence not keeping it at the right revolutions while idling, I managed to get the engine to run at full engine revs after I adjusted the screw marked "H" as it was not even getting to full speed while cutting and causing the chain to jam while cutting, so I now have that problem ironed out all I want it to do now is to continue running while idling without flooding the carburettor so I don't have to keep one hand on the trigger while moving the wood along as that is too bloody dangerous and once the saw floods it takes over an hour to restart it if the revs aren't kept up.

Cheers in advance

 

[Lawn Masters]

Welcome to the forum.
I'd try rebuilding the carb on the saw, most likely the gaskets are old, and stretched out. IF that doesnt help, set the L screw to lightly seated, and turn it one turn out, then see how that works. if its revving too high, just tinker with it till you get a crisp accelleration and smooth idle.

 

[ross_scott]

Thanks for that oldsaw-addict I will givewhat you suggested a try in the morning and will post back to let you know what happens. Also I failed to mention that the previous owner had changed the ignition system in the saw from its original coil and condensor system to electronic ignition.

 

[ross_scott]

Ok the saw still didn't want to idle after turning the idle screw "L" in and then back out one turn so I gave it an extra one turn and it still did not want to idle.
I did some further investigating and removed the air filter and gave it a scrub with a stiff bristled broom just to make sure it was clean then I noticed raw fuel sitting under the carburettor so I looked further and found the two bolts at the back of the carb sitting quarter of the way out so I screwed those back in and made sure they were tight and also I had noticed that the butterfly adjustment was screwed all the way back so I wound that in a little bit and then replaced the filter and cover gave it a start and the saw showed evidence of wanting to idle at the moment it will idle for a short period but the clutch is still engaged and that is not supposed to be like that. I try to tweak the idle screw where it starts to slow down and the clutch disengages but then will stall after a few seconds, it is showing signs of beginning to play ball but now I need to find its happy spot for idling. Also the carb gaskets looked fine infact they looked rather new, another thing I did find was the exhaust gasket is slightly leaky so I will head off to the store and try to find a compatible gasket so out with the tools to remove the exhaust so I can take the gasket as a sample.

 

[Al Smith]

I could be mistaken but that saw looks like one of the many take-offs of the Homelite Xl.If so,for some reason or another the seem to real cantankerous to tune.I don't have a clue as to why they are that way.I have a pair of Lombards,also a clone,that have driven me somewhat nutty from time to time,with the same you are experiencing.

 

[Lawn Masters]

I think you're right Al, that is a take off of the XL series. that was a popular design for a reason I guess, probably because it held up well, and is still working today. engineering at its best.

 

[ross_scott]

You guys are right is is actually pioneers version of the Homelite XL12. Just got back from doing my rounds of the chainsaw stores and on the third strike the guy came out with an exhaust gasket. It was quite funny actually the guy must have been in his 60's early 70's age group and when he asked what saw my sample gasket was off his eyes went as wide as a dinner plate when I told him and he hurried out the back with great enthusiasm and came back with the gasket I asked how much he wanted for it and he said it is free and to make sure I go to him if I ever want to trade the pioneer for one of his dolmars or oleomacs (that won't happen for a very long time unless the pioneer ticks me off one too many times). good part is the last store I went to the guy had everything I need (proper bars etc) without having to get them ordered in and at reasonable prices.

 

[Lawn Masters]

I just looked at the pic of your 11-30, it looks like it almost just came out of the box from the factory. NICE

 

[ross_scott]

That is why I bought it from the trademe auction site as it is in very good condition there are not many pioneers of this age still running in New Zealand

 

[Al Smith]

That bar pattern,if I'm not mistaken,is the same as a McCulloch 10 series.I referance that to my Lombards,which use that pattern.Oh,I forgot to mention,if you ever get it tuned,it's really not a bad old saw.

 

[ErrolC]

Oie...Ross...email me or phone..Errol in NZ 06 3586833 txt 021 0640596 Palmerston Nth...I'm interested in your Dolmar contact...I haven't been able to find any around the central NI..just around CHCH and northland and they don't handle them anymore...there are no NZ dealers left since Makita took over

 

[ross_scott]

Oie...Ross...email me or phone..Errol in NZ 06 3586833 txt 021 0640596 Palmerston Nth...I'm interested in your Dolmar contact...I haven't been able to find any around the central NI..just around CHCH and northland and they don't handle them anymore...there are no NZ dealers left since Makita took over

Hi Errol
Get in touch with Whangarei Chainsaws and Mowers as they deal in Dolmar and oleomac products. This is where I am about to take the Pioneer so I can have it professionaly tuned I just can't get it running right

 

[ross_scott]

That bar pattern,if I'm not mistaken,is the same as a McCulloch 10 series.I referance that to my Lombards,which use that pattern.Oh,I forgot to mention,if you ever get it tuned,it's really not a bad old saw.

I agree Al it is a good saw and I do like it and I will like it even more when it is running right , I actually prefer it over STIHL and Mculloch :HIDES:

 

[Bill G]

Hi
I am new to the forums and I need some assistance on where I can find a manual for a pioneer 1130 chainsaw. ......................
Cheers in advance

I have a 11-30 that was purchased new by my grandfather. I have the original owners manual as well as most parts manuals for the Pioneers. I cannot emails manuals at this time as my scanner has quit. I can always copy and mail or you can wait until I get a new scanner.

Bill

 

[ross_scott]

I have a 11-30 that was purchased new by my grandfather. I have the original owners manual as well as most parts manuals for the Pioneers. I cannot emails manuals at this time as my scanner has quit. I can always copy and mail or you can wait until I get a new scanner.

Bill

Hi Bill
Thankyou for the offer of copying the manual for me that is absolutely awesome can you PM me and let me know if you want anything to help with the cost of copying and postage or otherwise I am prepared to wait for an emailed copy

Cheers

 

[Bill G]

I bought a new scanner and scanned the IPL. I have the owners manual but it will take quite awhile to scan. When I tried to scan the IPL to a .pdf it would not scan it all. I scanned the IPL as a word document. I can email it if you send me your email address.

Bill

 

[ross_scott]

PM Sent to you Bill

 

[ross_scott]

You would not believe this but I just got a call from the chainsaw repair guy and was informed that the saw is the process of being fine tuned and that he had basically stripped the whole thing down and all components were all in very good condition and as a last resort of elimination he pulled out some mesh that had been stuffed inside the muffler(which was already there when I replaced exhaust gasket and I left it in thinking it was meant to be there) which was infront of the baffle plate and stuffed down the exhaust outlet once that was removed the saw began to idle without cutting out so the problem according to the repairman was an issue of too much back pressure and the carb had to be reset. And I was just about ready to give up and purchase a brand new saw

 

[Bill G]

I emailed the IPL. Did you get it ?

Bill

 

[Lawn Masters]

Well, glad to hear it was a simple thing like that causing the problem, have fun with the saw.