I think thats a bunch of BS. If the clutch isnt slipping on the drum there isnt heat buildup. The outboard design just makes it a pain in the azz to change sprockets and replace the bar and chain. Of course I cut my teeth on inboard clutch Stihls.
Please help me decide. 365, 372XP, 570, 575xp
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Hi Ben,
Ryan mentioned lighter modified saw. How does the 361 EHP stack up to the dolmar.
Ryan mentioned lighter modified saw. How does the 361 EHP stack up to the dolmar.
I sold my Dolmar after problems with the oiler and getting parts. Chalk that one up to a lesson learned.
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The modded 575 uses about half the fuel of a 385XP.Ryan Willock said:
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Well Ben Walker for your information, whether you think it is BS or not, an 'outboard clutch removes heat source from main bearings and seals for longer life.'
And that information comes from the Husqvarna catalog.
But it makes more sense to me that if it ain't slippin it ain't making heat.
Where are some places to hopefully find a 372?
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And that information comes from the Husqvarna catalog.
But it makes more sense to me that if it ain't slippin it ain't making heat.
Where are some places to hopefully find a 372?
Thanks
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We were out of 372's up here but again a bunch of new one showed up so they must still be making them. I would go with a 372 first then a 365 , do what Gypo has posted about doing a muffler mod to them and be happy
Then it has to be true..
Would you really expect Husky to fess up that the outboard clutch design blows? Husky puts a inboard clutch on its most popular pro saws(372,385). I think that speaks volumes on the sunject
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the main thing I like about the inboard cluch is when you have to take your powerhead off the saw if you get your saw caught in a bad spot, alot cheaper buying a bar and chain instead of a whole new saw, yes crap does happen
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I cut with a 61 and then a 372. the 372 just died recently after cutting 500 cords over a three year period. I had trouble getting parts for the 372 where I live and I switched to three stihl MS 440 and think they are the best saws I have ever operated. Dennis
bwalker said:Then it has to be true..
Would you really expect Husky to fess up that the outboard clutch design blows? Husky puts a inboard clutch on its most popular pro saws(372,385). I think that speaks volumes on the sunject
I think that the main reason for the usage on outboard clutch by Husq/Jons is not the bearings, but the reality that the crankcase is the most complicated detail of chainsaw, the replacement of outboard design with the inboard clutch demands completely new crankcase, which is expencive to design, etc.
Jugs-pistons are easy to redesign for new saws
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I love my 365 and would recommend it highly. Since you want to run a 24+ inch bar you really need a little more power. In which case I’d say go 372XP. Personally I have not been overly impressed with the new 575XP. Heavier (14.9lbs) and more expensive with about the same power as the 372XP. It may be more “modern” but I am not sure its worth carrying around another ~2 lbs all day. And quite frankly who cares about lower chain saw emissions.
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Not according to ehp, at least relative to the 372, which still beats it....Hard to mod, Ed said....
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Hi Roger,
I guess whether or not the 575 pulls really well when modded depends alot on what you call really well.
Ed and I did overcome the issue of the rev limited coil on the 575 which helps, but the mod isn`t for the faint of heart or guys who polish their saws at the end of the day.
The actual weight difference between the 575 and 372 is around 13 ounces if I recall correctly.
What the 575 has going for it in the real world besides fuel economy is a decently wide powerband and it`s ultrasmooth. It`s a nice saw to cut with. Too bad that it doesn`t have more displacement, but who knows, maybe in the future.
Russ
I guess whether or not the 575 pulls really well when modded depends alot on what you call really well.
Ed and I did overcome the issue of the rev limited coil on the 575 which helps, but the mod isn`t for the faint of heart
or guys who polish their saws at the end of the day.The actual weight difference between the 575 and 372 is around 13 ounces if I recall correctly.
What the 575 has going for it in the real world besides fuel economy is a decently wide powerband and it`s ultrasmooth. It`s a nice saw to cut with. Too bad that it doesn`t have more displacement, but who knows, maybe in the future.
Russ
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Ach Mon, Quit yer messsin' abboot and get a Dolmar. The 7900 will put a smile on yer face. If it must be a Hooskie then get the 372. Its a good saw but the Dolmar is better. Do ya ken what I'm sayin'?
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Woodsman, get the 372 tried, and true baileys has them w/o bar and chain last stock the say for $529.00. Myself I like stuff that has been around for a while, and had bugs worked out 575 still a little new I think.
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I suspect that they are discontinued (in theory only it seems) in North America only. A Husky rep I met at the local dealer some time ago said that they would be in the lineup a couple of more years here in Norway - so it is likely that they are still made..ehp said:
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E-Lux inboard/outboard
I could be wrong, but here we go;
Originally Husky, Jred and Partner had a tradition for outboard clutches. As far as I know the first E-Lux saw to have it inboard was the P7700 from about 1983/84. That saw was developed into the Jred 2077, 2083 and 2083 II - and several Poulan Pro models (475, 505 and a 65 cc version as I recall).
The 94 cc Husky/Jreds and the 3120 was developed before the Husky/Jred tradition started to budge - and therefore has outboard clutches.
The sideways balance with long and heavy bars could also be a factor.
The 371 family of saws, that is now 372, 2171 etc, was developed a bit later, and they got the inboard clutch. Probably because they had admitted that it was the best solution at that time. The 385/2186 was even later, and also got it.
On the smaller saws, the outboard clutches are probably a trade-off, to be able to make the slim saw bodies they brag about in advertisement.
The slim bodies sure are nice, so it is really up to the costumer to decide if it is worth the trade-off, or not.
I think you are on the track of something, and so was bwalker in the post you quoted. But I think the picture is a bit more complicated.pinus said:I think that the main reason for the usage on outboard clutch by Husq/Jons is not the bearings, but the reality that the crankcase is the most complicated detail of chainsaw, the replacement of outboard design with the inboard clutch demands completely new crankcase, which is expencive to design, etc.
Jugs-pistons are easy to redesign for new saws
I could be wrong, but here we go;
Originally Husky, Jred and Partner had a tradition for outboard clutches. As far as I know the first E-Lux saw to have it inboard was the P7700 from about 1983/84. That saw was developed into the Jred 2077, 2083 and 2083 II - and several Poulan Pro models (475, 505 and a 65 cc version as I recall).
The 94 cc Husky/Jreds and the 3120 was developed before the Husky/Jred tradition started to budge - and therefore has outboard clutches.
The sideways balance with long and heavy bars could also be a factor.
The 371 family of saws, that is now 372, 2171 etc, was developed a bit later, and they got the inboard clutch. Probably because they had admitted that it was the best solution at that time. The 385/2186 was even later, and also got it.
On the smaller saws, the outboard clutches are probably a trade-off, to be able to make the slim saw bodies they brag about in advertisement.
The slim bodies sure are nice, so it is really up to the costumer to decide if it is worth the trade-off, or not.
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